Children of Dune Mini-series Soundtrack Request!

[SandChigger]

Could anyone who has a physical copy of this CD do me a favor and look through the liner notes and cover text for any mention of The Dune Encyclopedia or the names Alan Kaye or John Quijada?

Shukran/Thanks!

[reverendmotherQ.]

Does this have to do with the discrepencies between the lyrics and the actual meanings behind them as opposed the the fake ones inserted by the composer?
Unfortunately I don't have a hard copy of the soundtrack or the case, but ironically I'm listening to it right now.

[DuneFishUK]

I've got it - but it's fucking awkward to get to one-handed. Will have a go on thurs (stitches out) if no-one beats me to it...

[SandChigger]

Does this have to do with the discrepencies between the lyrics and the actual meanings behind them as opposed the the fake ones inserted by the composer?
Unfortunately I don't have a hard copy of the soundtrack or the case, but ironically I'm listening to it right now.

Yes, but it has more to do with the composer's wholesale plagiarism of the lyrics (from The Dune Encyclopedia) and his claim that he went through FH's Dune books and translated the lyrics in Fremen himself. The bogus English "translation" he provided is the least of his sins.

From Tyler's website (presumably this text is the same as the CD liner notes), written by Greg Yaitanes, CoD director:

Brian actually searched through Herbert's books and deciphered enough of the fictional Fremen language to write this powerful song.

Or from the product blurb on the soundtrack CD's page on Amazon (written by Jerry McCulley):

It's an epic score that belies its cable roots, yet one that remains masterfully restrained and informed by a dedication of purpose that's even inspired the composer to translate the lyric of his gorgeous, ethereal vocal piece, "Inama Nushuf" into the language of novelist Herbert's native Fremen people.

This came up here back in March (viewtopic.php?p=40788#p40788), but I didn't really start to get pissed off about it until after KJA tried to pass off some gibberish as "the language of the dessert" in Winds. The lack of respect shown for learning, authenticity, (foreign) language & culture, and (as usual) FH's works really is inexcusable.

Depending on how you look at it, this could be just another example of The Dune Encyclopedia being pillaged for profit. After all, no one has seen any proof that the similarities between TDE content and McDune content stem from material in FH's notes and not theft of the ideas.

(DuneFish: I ordered a copy of the CD for myself, so no need to risk injury! Should arrive tomorrow or Thursday! )

[Omphalos]

I've got it - but it's fucking awkward to get to one-handed. Will have a go on thurs (stitches out) if no-one beats me to it...

Get a lil' boo-boo didja? Whappen?

[Tleszer]

I've got it - but it's fucking awkward to get to one-handed.

What are you doing with the other hand?

if no-one beats me to it...

Oh.

[SandChigger]

Oh Holy Maker, must EVERY thread end up in the gutter?!

[reverendmotherQ.]

WIN. ^

Ah I see. I remember reading an entry on your blog about that mess with the lyric translation. And it's awful I agree how everythings being so distorted and drawn out so that it can be twisted for purposes not directly tied to the novel or grounded in the original texts.
If only Truthsayers were real, this problem could be solved - At the end of Murbella's fist.

[SandChigger]

Yeah ... we need to show up with a Truthsayer at the next book signing where both hacks are present.

"Anderson! Has Herbert written anything besides his name on the checks and inside these books he signs?"

"Yes! Brian and I share the work equally!"

"HE LIES!!! ARE there any notes?"

"Of ... of course there are!"

"HE LIES AGAIN!!!"

It would be glorious.

[DuneFishUK]

if no-one beats me to it...

Oh.

Bloody hell...



Something about pix...

[inhuien]

^^^ Are you auditioning for How to get ahead in Advertising?

Looks like a crafting knife slash. oops.

[Freakzilla]

if no-one beats me to it...

Oh.

Bloody hell...



Something about pix...

If you use the other hand it feels like a first date.

[reverendmotherQ.]

I seriously want a petition for them to make available to us the original "notes" so we can see for ourselves whether or not they are just exploiting ideas that Frank thought of using possibly when he jot them down but then discarded them as viable.
And i would want a manuscript comparison to determine whether or not it is the REAL Frank's hand writing, not the hacks trying to forge some evidence.

[Seraphan]

According to the Norman Spinrad interview done by SandRider:

SR: Do you believe Frank had intentions of a "Dune7" ? Along the same lines, what do think of the claim of Brian Herbert to have found floppy disks containing the "complete" Dune7 outline in a safety deposit box years after Frank's death ? If there were notes, do you believe Brian and Kevin J. Anderson used them faithfully in their new "Dune" books ?

NS: Maybe. Frank kept going as long as the big money kept rolling in. Knowing Frank's political philosophy, I once asked him how he could keep writing this royalist stuff. He told me he planned to end the series with a novel that would transition to a fictional universe of democratic rule. Never wrote it, of course. And Brian and Kevin certainly didn't from any 7 notes.

A direct link to it:http://www.jacurutu.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1112&start=0

[reverendmotherQ.]

OH hell no they didn't! I wish I could sue them. For failing at life.