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    Why no Honored Matres forum?

    Postby malika » 21 Apr 2008 16:07

    I noticed that you have forums for all the big factions in the original 6 Dune novels, but there is no forum for the Honored Matres, who were pretty big player in the last two novels (I'm not counting the table scrap by KJA).

    Please add a forum for the lovely ladies too? :twisted:
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    Postby Freakzilla » 21 Apr 2008 17:06

    I've always thought of them as an off-shoot of the Bene Gesserit, I'm not sure there's that much discussion to be had about them.

    I'll consider it, I think there's a lot of forums already though.
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    Postby orald » 21 Apr 2008 17:29

    In short: No.

    :P


    Nobody likes the HM.
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    Postby Mandy » 21 Apr 2008 18:55

    You could put the HM in the description for the BG forum, so people would know where they go. They're also the descendants of Fish Speakers, right?
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    Postby orald » 21 Apr 2008 19:01

    FS and BG ancestry.

    But I think they're relatively a minor faction in the Duniverse(in terms of space in the books), much like the FS or great noble houses, and those don't get a forum of their own(why the Ixians ever got their own forum is byond me).
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    Postby Freakzilla » 21 Apr 2008 19:32

    And if we're to believe Pinky & The Brian, female Tleilaxu too.

    The Ixian forum is intended for discussion of their technology too, which is most technology in the Duniverse.
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    Postby orald » 21 Apr 2008 20:18

    Freakzilla wrote:The Ixian forum is intended for discussion of their technology too, which is most technology in the Duniverse.

    Nonsense! Richese rules! :x
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    Postby malika » 22 Apr 2008 03:45

    orald wrote:FS and BG ancestry.

    But I think they're relatively a minor faction in the Duniverse(in terms of space in the books), much like the FS or great noble houses, and those don't get a forum of their own(why the Ixians ever got their own forum is byond me).


    Aren't the noble houses included in the Landsraad section?
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    Postby Freakzilla » 22 Apr 2008 05:07

    malika wrote:
    orald wrote:FS and BG ancestry.

    But I think they're relatively a minor faction in the Duniverse(in terms of space in the books), much like the FS or great noble houses, and those don't get a forum of their own(why the Ixians ever got their own forum is byond me).


    Aren't the noble houses included in the Landsraad section?


    Yes, the Imperial House as well.
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    Postby orald » 22 Apr 2008 08:13

    Yea, but my point was that you could make a stand-alone Harkonnen, Corrino etc forum. Since Ix seems, according to Freak, to be actually our "Duniverse Tech" forum I get why it's seperate.
    Otherwise Ix should be part of the landsraad.
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    Postby Freakzilla » 22 Apr 2008 08:42

    orald wrote:Yea, but my point was that you could make a stand-alone Harkonnen, Corrino etc forum. Since Ix seems, according to Freak, to be actually our "Duniverse Tech" forum I get why it's seperate.
    Otherwise Ix should be part of the landsraad.


    Ix wasn't part of the Landsraad, Neither were the Bene Tleilax. That's how they escaped the "more severe effects of the Butlerian Jihad".
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    Postby orald » 22 Apr 2008 13:48

    According to whom, the DE? I don't put much stock in the DE.

    And what about Richese? Is it out of the landsraad too according to your source?
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    Postby Freakzilla » 22 Apr 2008 14:29

    orald wrote:According to whom, the DE? I don't put much stock in the DE.

    And what about Richese? Is it out of the landsraad too according to your source?


    Have I ever referenced the DE? No.

    According to Dune Messiah, the Ixians had their own confederacy. They are never mentioned by FH as "House Ix" or anything of the sory.

    I believe Richese is mentioned somewhere as being a Great House, I'd have to check.
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    Postby orald » 22 Apr 2008 14:42

    I think they're a great house too, that's why I asked.

    I've never thought of Ix being a confederacy to mean they're not part of the landsraad, only to mean they don't have their nobles but more of a democratic system, or probably a directorate like in companies.

    They're not mentioned in the landsraad, but so are other houses I believe.
    We don't really get that many detailing on the inner workings and members of the landsraad.
    The landsraad is like the UN, it just represents the forces at play, most of whom are houses great and small, it doesn't mean all of them have to be feudal structures.
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    Postby Freakzilla » 22 Apr 2008 14:48

    The Landsraad is an assembly of the Great Houses, I assume that if you are not a Great House then you're not in the Landsraad. The Landsraad couldn't enforce the Butlerian Jihad on those planets for that reason.

    BTW, I can't find any mention of Richese being ruled by a Great House either. They are only mention in Dune's Terminology as being like Ix.
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    Postby cmsahe » 19 Sep 2008 23:17

    orald wrote:In short: No.

    :P


    Nobody likes the HM.


    I like Murbella! And Dama the Spider Queen was an interesting character. :P
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    Postby Bijaz » 20 Sep 2008 02:13

    cmsahe wrote:
    orald wrote:In short: No.

    :P


    Nobody likes the HM.


    I like Murbella! And Dama the Spider Queen was an interesting character. :P


    Admit it...you're just horny for some Honored Loving!?
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    Postby Bijaz » 20 Sep 2008 02:16

    Freakzilla wrote:The Landsraad is an assembly of the Great Houses, I assume that if you are not a Great House then you're not in the Landsraad. The Landsraad couldn't enforce the Butlerian Jihad on those planets for that reason.

    BTW, I can't find any mention of Richese being ruled by a Great House either. They are only mention in Dune's Terminology as being like Ix.


    This is interesting, do you have a quote?
    I always thought the enforcement came from cultural forces.
    Did the Landsraad actually enforce regulations developed as a result of the Butlerian Jihad?
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    Postby Freakzilla » 20 Sep 2008 08:43

    Bijaz wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:The Landsraad is an assembly of the Great Houses, I assume that if you are not a Great House then you're not in the Landsraad. The Landsraad couldn't enforce the Butlerian Jihad on those planets for that reason.

    BTW, I can't find any mention of Richese being ruled by a Great House either. They are only mention in Dune's Terminology as being like Ix.


    This is interesting, do you have a quote?
    I always thought the enforcement came from cultural forces.
    Did the Landsraad actually enforce regulations developed as a result of the Butlerian Jihad?


    I wouldn't say it if I couldn't back it up. We recently discussed this in another topic. I'll try to find it later.
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