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Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby TheCurtOne » 02 Jun 2011 10:04

I think that the books by K Anderson and B Herbert suck. Not just their rip-off of Dune and Frank Herbert, but everything else they've written. George Lucas let Anderson "dumb down" Star Wars in the 90's, and Lucas ought to be hanging his head in shame with that "Young Jedi" crap that Anderson created. And try reading anything B Herbert has ever written.

Back to Dune. From the first part of House Atreides when the duo veered off with their House Vernius and Kaleeia Vernius crap, I should have known better and thrown the stuff in the fireplace. Though, with my friend cheerfully encouraging me on year after year, I read through the s#it that finished that miserable trilogy. Something to clean out your toilet bowl is how I would describe the dumb duo's version of the Butlerian Jihad. The laughs continued with Hunters and Sandworms. Oh, that wasn't supposed to be comedy writing? Worthless, miserable pieces of poop is how I would describe Paul and Winds, and the upcoming S#itterhood of Dune. God, doesn't the Herbert family have any pride, and can't they be sued? Somebody do something. Glad I'm here, glad my friend EO finally saw the light this year.

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Ampoliros » 02 Jun 2011 11:20

Welcome Welcome!



And of course, there is a good amount of discussion of the real Dune here.
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Freakzilla » 02 Jun 2011 13:37

Hey, they haven't even published Sisterhood yet, give it a chance, hater! :wink:
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Omphalos » 02 Jun 2011 13:45

Yea, Sisterhood could fix everything. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

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Welcome! :lol:
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Lundse » 02 Jun 2011 16:52

Omphalos wrote:Yea, Sisterhood could fix everything. :lol: :lol: :lol:


And here's how (full text of foreword, novel is all blank pages):

Punked!
Ultra-spice! You actually fell for that?

Morons.

If you want more Dune, read Frank Herbert, think about and discuss it. If you were happy with "joining the circus"-stories, scribble something on the blank pages...

Fucking babies, mewling for prechewed crap - my "writing" career is over, I am grabbing the money I made of all you fanboy morons and retiring.

PS: Yo, "Talifans" :-) Here's Brian's home address, be sure to send him a few letters detailing how we all feel about selling out his fathers legacy [address here].
PPS: Brian, you should at least read the stuff you claim to write, nimwit.

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Tleszer » 02 Jun 2011 17:00

Welcome! :orcs-buttshake:
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby SandChigger » 03 Jun 2011 08:34

Achlan wasachlan bik fi-sietchina! :D



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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby TheCurtOne » 03 Jun 2011 12:13

B Herbert can't expect much from S#itterhood, can he? Now that EO isn't going to buy it and hand out some free copies to his kidz, whose left? And B & KJA can't go and complete the 2 messes that were going to be Irulan and Golden Path. (There is a God!)

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Ampoliros » 03 Jun 2011 17:09

It literally comes down to sales, as long as TOR can make a profit off of the books they will publish them, and with sales dropping practically exponentially for the last two books and the 'decision to move away from interquels' having been made, I'm wondering how long it will be till the series just isn't profitable. Me thinks that both Brian and TOR are starting to conclude that the new books have long passed the stage where people know they are just money grabs and not quality reads. I really think the only one halfway-clinging to that illusion is Kevin.

It reminds me of the Stewart/Colbert rally, not one person who knew what my "The New Dune Books Suck" sign meant came up to disagree with me, yet I had close to a hundred people point at my sign or come up to snap a picture that totally agreed with it.

The readership of the new books has been reduced to fanboys who didn't understand the original work and people who really don't care that much and just want some mindless entertainment. I've met very few serious readers of sci-fi that enjoy the new books, and most of them still operate under the belief that they are somehow based on Frank's notes.
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby DuneFishUK » 04 Jun 2011 18:23

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Jun 2011 09:58

Lundse wrote:
Omphalos wrote:Yea, Sisterhood could fix everything. :lol: :lol: :lol:


And here's how (full text of foreword, novel is all blank pages):

Punked!
Ultra-spice! You actually fell for that?

Morons.

If you want more Dune, read Frank Herbert, think about and discuss it. If you were happy with "joining the circus"-stories, scribble something on the blank pages...

Fucking babies, mewling for prechewed crap - my "writing" career is over, I am grabbing the money I made of all you fanboy morons and retiring.

PS: Yo, "Talifans" :-) Here's Brian's home address, be sure to send him a few letters detailing how we all feel about selling out his fathers legacy [address here].
PPS: Brian, you should at least read the stuff you claim to write, nimwit.


He'd probably do it if someone would publish it.
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby SandChigger » 05 Jun 2011 10:36

Anderson will e-publish it in a week or so, I'm sure. :roll:

Edit: Wait a minute... what?! :character-oldtimer:
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Lundse » 05 Jun 2011 13:36

Freakzilla wrote:He'd probably do it if someone would publish it.


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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby endisbegun27 » 25 Jun 2011 22:09

dude, when i found out dune 7 was coming out (this was while i was still reading through the real 6 books, i was on heretics at the time) i was so excited
i bought it the day it came out
i didnt do anything but read the rest of the real dune books so i could finish and get to 7

boy, was i in for a suprise
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until i see franks "notes" for myself, im still convinced they found a post-it that had the word cinnamon on it

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Ampoliros » 26 Jun 2011 00:41

It might be worth using as an IQ test. Read the originals then pick up Book 7s and start taking notes on how not to write, how many characters change personalities, how 'clever' an idea is and how it being 'clever' actually makes it end up being even dumber than just an expected cliche result.
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby endisbegun27 » 26 Jun 2011 09:37

inthe next prequel series they write we're going to find out that the face dancers were actually face dancing as thinking machines since the butlerian jihad
and that leto actually had 2 secret sons, one of which was half human, half face dancer, and his name, was gurney halleck.
of course this all takes place on tatooine
until i see franks "notes" for myself, im still convinced they found a post-it that had the word cinnamon on it

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby Nekhrun » 26 Jun 2011 10:58

endisbegun27 wrote:inthe next prequel series they write we're going to find out that the face dancers were actually face dancing as thinking machines since the butlerian jihad
and that leto actually had 2 secret sons, one of which was half human, half face dancer, and his name, was gurney halleck.
of course this all takes place on tatooine

Hey! Slow down there buddy. Save it for the next fan fic contest.
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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby trang » 26 Jun 2011 11:45

Well Met and Welcome!

Sorry for late welcome, Been busy with real life (new job, moving, etc) and haven't had as much time to spend around these parts. Sorry you had to endure the pain that is the scribbling of KJA and BH.

I have read them all as well, just to be able to articulate the terrible mess they have made. I don't know if anyone has noticed, but each new incarnation, overall, gets shorter and shorter. Guess they are running out of crap to put out, the shit well can only run so deep. I hope that Sisters of Dune, is printed by TOR, cant sell them, and makes those two buy them back at cover price!

Or donate them to the homeless local chapter 14, to keep warm in winter and have on tap for wiping materials.

I have said and others too, Paul of Dune and Winds of Dune, are just wastes of fucking time and paper. STOP THE MADNESS!

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Re: Down with Anderson & Brian Herbert

Postby endisbegun27 » 27 Jun 2011 22:33

50% of the pages, 100% of the price!
plans with plans

i mean its technically a good thing theyre getting shorter, right?
it means less kevin j bowel movements, or "story" as hes tricked people into thinking
until i see franks "notes" for myself, im still convinced they found a post-it that had the word cinnamon on it


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