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    The Long Road

    Postby ErasOmnius » 28 Feb 2011 14:01

    "My name is ErasOmnius, and I am a recovering 'Brian and Kevin' Dune-aholic..."

    I am glad to be here, and it took some time. You have all been telling the truth for years -- but I did not want to listen. I kept believing that 'Brian and Kevin' had a noble cause, something far-reaching that they wanted to do.

    But, if people keep telling the truth about the misguided duo, then eventually their house of cards will collapse. I want to thank Sandchigger for relentlessly showing people what B & K's idiotic stories are all about.

    For me, the moment that the last drip drop of toxic writing was the Theater of Shards storyline from Winds of Dune. It weighed heavily on me, and the whole 'Expanded' Dune point of view simply collapsed after that. All of it. The 'House' series, the 'BJ' series, the 'Sequels' series, and the disgusting 'Heroes'. They had Irulan say that Dune was in-universe novel! And the upcoming 'Schools' garbage. I had to admit that Brian could care less about his father, and is raping his father's legacy for money. I care about the people who are still caught up in the B & K ''Dune' universe, but the 'Expanded' Dune people and I must part ways.

    What do I do with all of these Brian and Kevin written books that I have bought since 1999?
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Freakzilla » 28 Feb 2011 14:10

    :clap:

    Burn 'em?
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby TheDukester » 28 Feb 2011 14:19

    ErasOmnius wrote:What do I do with all of these Brian and Kevin written books that I have bought since 1999?

    Used book store.

    Don't even ask for cash; just take whatever store credit you can get and walk out with some good literature. Anything will do and any genre will suffice, provided the author had even the slightest bit of respect for the craft.

    Then never look back. And never, ever spend a single penny, no matter how indirectly, that could possibly go toward supporting Spanky McDune and Bobo Herbert. Ever.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 28 Feb 2011 15:19

    Welcome. On the bright side (I guess...) at least you got to get some enjoyment out of the new books before they raped your mind?
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Serkanner » 28 Feb 2011 15:36

    Welcome Home! It is never to late to be cleansed from the filth that is the McDune atrocity.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby SadisticCynic » 28 Feb 2011 15:43

    I had the Prelude, Legends and Dune 7 new stuff and I sold it on Ebay. For £0.99. Took a few relistings too. Probably best to follow Dukester's advice on that one.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Nekhrun » 28 Feb 2011 17:34

    Brian seems largely to blame here as he continues to let it all happen. Glad you eventually came around. You had more stomach for it than I had. I'm still on page 44 of Paul of Dune :puke:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby SandChigger » 28 Feb 2011 17:39

    Achlan wasachlan! Welcome. :)
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby DuneFishUK » 28 Feb 2011 18:28

    Welcome home :)
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Omphalos » 28 Feb 2011 18:34

    Hellooooo!!!!!!!

    We've had a few converts over the years, IIRC. ManBearPig was one. Don't remember his original username over at DN. I think there have been others.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Nekhrun » 28 Feb 2011 18:36

    Omphalos wrote:Hellooooo!!!!!!!

    We've had a few converts over the years, IIRC. ManBearPig was one. Don't remember his original username over at DN. I think there have been others.

    Tyrant. Nebiros was another.

    I've been a convert to both sides about 20 times if I remember correctly :wink:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby SandChigger » 28 Feb 2011 19:58

    Slut. :snooty:
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    I...had written a bunch of Star Wars and X-Files books...that proved not just that I'm a hack, but that I could write in somebody else's universe... —KJA
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby D Pope » 28 Feb 2011 20:02

    TheDukester wrote:
    ErasOmnius wrote:What do I do with all of these Brian and Kevin written books that I have bought since 1999?

    Used book store.

    Don't even ask for cash; just take whatever store credit you can get and walk out with some good literature. Anything will do and any genre will suffice, provided the author had even the slightest bit of respect for the craft.

    Don't get discouraged if you can't unload them on the first try.
    There are two confirmed used bookstores around St. Louis Mo. that are 'no longer accepting' mcDune and Harliquin Romance.

    ErasOmnius wrote:I kept believing that 'Brian and Kevin' had a noble cause, something far-reaching that they wanted to do...

    For me, the moment that the last drip drop of toxic writing was the Theater of Shards storyline from Winds of Dune. It weighed heavily on me, and the whole 'Expanded' Dune point of view simply collapsed after that. All of it.

    When you feel like it, i'd love to hear the expanded version of your epiphany.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Omphalos » 28 Feb 2011 20:14

    Nekhrun wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:Hellooooo!!!!!!!

    We've had a few converts over the years, IIRC. ManBearPig was one. Don't remember his original username over at DN. I think there have been others.

    Tyrant. Nebiros was another.

    I've been a convert to both sides about 20 times if I remember correctly :wink:


    Nebiros isn't a convert. He can't be. He doesn't get either side's arguments.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Nekhrun » 28 Feb 2011 20:55

    Omphalos wrote:
    Nekhrun wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:Hellooooo!!!!!!!

    We've had a few converts over the years, IIRC. ManBearPig was one. Don't remember his original username over at DN. I think there have been others.

    Tyrant. Nebiros was another.

    I've been a convert to both sides about 20 times if I remember correctly :wink:


    Nebiros isn't a convert. He can't be. He doesn't get either side's arguments.

    That's his cue...
    SandChigger wrote:Slut. :snooty:

    I'll take it where I can get it.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby merkin muffley » 01 Mar 2011 00:07

    Nekhrun wrote:You had more stomach for it than I had. I'm still on page 44 of Paul of Dune :puke:


    That's how I was radicalized. Although, I knew it was shit from the first chapter of the first one I read (Butlerian Jihad). It was just missing everything that I love about Dune. :snooty:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby SandChigger » 01 Mar 2011 00:14

    Nekhrun wrote:
    SandChigger wrote:Slut. :snooty:

    I'll take it where I can get it.

    Hyppo's hungry again, it looks like. At least, she was stirring over on FED2k earlier today. :lol:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Nebiros » 01 Mar 2011 01:36

    Depends on what you mean by convert. Don't understand the arguments? Then maybe I'm not.

    I stopped being a fan of Brian and Kevin's books with the title Dune on them when I read in Sandworms of Dune how Norma took Omnius to an alternate universe. That was the final insult or the straw that broke the camel's back or some other saying. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I wrote that wrong and naturally slag me off for not knowing the saying.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby TheDukester » 01 Mar 2011 01:55

    Nekhrun wrote:That's his cue...

    Winner, winner, chicken dinner! :dance: :clap:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Omphalos » 01 Mar 2011 04:37

    Nebiros wrote:Depends on what you mean by convert. Don't understand the arguments? Then maybe I'm not.

    I stopped being a fan of Brian and Kevin's books with the title Dune on them when I read in Sandworms of Dune how Norma took Omnius to an alternate universe. That was the final insult or the straw that broke the camel's back or some other saying. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I wrote that wrong and naturally slag me off for not knowing the saying.


    Actually, I really did want to see if you would pop up right away. Thanks!

    I thought the part you hated was when BH & KJA let their female characters do things like wear shoes, fornicate without procreating and walk around outside?????
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Eyes High » 01 Mar 2011 05:52

    Welcome home my desert brother. Come and renew your strength.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby SandChigger » 01 Mar 2011 07:03

    Hi, Nebby! :dance:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Tleszer » 01 Mar 2011 07:51

    Welcome! :orcs-buttshake:
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby merkin muffley » 01 Mar 2011 09:03

    Omphalos wrote:I thought the part you hated was when BH & KJA let their female characters do things like wear shoes, fornicate without procreating and walk around outside?????


    That was the next to last straw.
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    Re: The Long Road

    Postby Nebiros » 01 Mar 2011 20:11

    No it's not fornicating without procreating. It's fornication overall. As well as doing it with more than one partner in such a callous manner and choosing sex partners (note the plural) for their daughters.

    Actually Frank Herbert made his female characters do that as well so that's not the reason I dislike the Brian and Kevin's dune books.
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