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    Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Shaitan » 27 Aug 2010 23:29

    Before I begin, let me first admit that I've now read every single one of the "new" books. They certainly annoy the hell out of me at times with KJA's quantity-over-quality writing style and all of the various other flaws that y'all have obviously been over with a fine tooth comb.....but I have a voracious appetite for all things Dune and I am satisfied to extract the odd bit of non-tripe from the new school material, trying not to let the overarching crapfest ruin it for me (despite often failing).

    Here's one that will really get to you guys....Dune itself is the last of the books that I read! I'd seen the Lynch film and the Syfy (don't get me started) miniseries, got my hands on God Emperor a few years back, loved it (still my favorite of the books -- Long Live the Tyrant! 3,500 More Years! Heh), and for various reasons just never got around to actually reading Dune itself until I'd finished everything else.

    I thought I knew what it was going to be like, that I knew everything that happened in the story. What a surprise I had in store for me!

    In a way, I think I've enjoyed the original book all that much more for the contrast between it and the other books, having read them first. Even against Frank's own other works, it has a certain warmth and glow of youth that is lacking in the later, IMHO "drier," sequels. But there's still that self-negating theme that gets under my skin and opens me up to being that much more accepting of the non-canon....I'm sure I'll get shit for saying so, but the reason that the "finale" of Sandworms of Dune was so appealing to me was that for once, the good guys get to "win" without losing just as much if not more in the process! There's a certain beauty to Frank's approach, but the appeal of the notion that Paul eventually gets to be *actually happy* in his second life (ignoring the whole Paolo thing....god what a stupid fucking name, but I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir on that one) was just too much for me. I keep getting lured in by KJA/BH's cheap sugary-sweet themes, even though underneath it all I hate them just as much as any of y'all.

    So....I'm a writer myself, though I've been stuck on my opus for many years much as Frank spent six years preparing to write Dune, and haven't been published in about a decade. Eventually I may start posting about my plans for that creative project and a few others I have planned, but I babble about that in plenty of other places so I'll spare you for the time being.

    I've lurked here for some time, and decided it was time -- now that I've finally read the original masterwork -- to join in. My own personal backstory is long and complicated, but the short version is that I'm 32, with two kids, former professional athlete/martial arts teacher and successful self-employed polymath (I still do a little work in very broad ranges of business, mostly consulting and web publishing but many other things as well), been disabled by a severe chronic pain/immune-system condition for nearly 10 years now, a disease that may eventually prove fatal. I'm trying to make the most of my life, and my opportunities to make my mark on history, with however much time I have left in which I can still do the necessary work. Already, (don't let this long intro post fool you!) I am having trouble typing nearly as prolifically as I used to because of severe arthritis in my hands. Playing my baliset....er, I mean guitar....is becoming very difficult. So, I immerse myself in the world of Dune as a means of letting my mind soar out of my ruined body, and I take much inspiration from it for my own opus which I hope to publish in a "transmedia" community-collaborative format (tricky to explain because it's such an ambitious and complex concept, but I'm sure I'll bend your ears about it soon enough) beginning in the next year, with roughly 10 'seasons' planned if it succeeds in anything remotely like the fashion I hope for.

    That's the short version (yes, really! LOL) of who I am and what brought me here. You may now proceed to berate me for my failings as an Orthodox Herbertarian. :snooty:
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Eyes High » 28 Aug 2010 00:46

    Welcome aboard mate.
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandRider » 28 Aug 2010 00:54

    smells like SwordMaster .....


    (just sayin'....)
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Freakzilla » 28 Aug 2010 01:27

    SandRider wrote:smells like SwordMaster .....


    (just sayin'....)



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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby merkin muffley » 28 Aug 2010 02:14

    Hello. Did you read all of the new books before reading "Dune?" For me, the new books are shit writing, and I would still think they sucked even if they weren't totally inconsistent with the originals. Which sport did you play professionally?
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Omphalos » 28 Aug 2010 03:21

    SandRider wrote:smells like SwordMaster .....


    (just sayin'....)


    Sounds way too intelligent to be that dumbfuck.

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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 28 Aug 2010 03:24

    Welcome.
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby inhuien » 28 Aug 2010 04:54

    hihihi Shaitan :)
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Serkanner » 28 Aug 2010 05:44

    Welcome Home!
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Tleszer » 28 Aug 2010 07:11

    Welcome! :orcs-buttshake:
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandRider » 28 Aug 2010 07:35

    Omphalos wrote:
    SandRider wrote:smells like SwordMaster .....


    (just sayin'....)


    Sounds way too intelligent to be that dumbfuck.

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    okay, then.
    I be good ...
    I do rite ...



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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby merkin muffley » 28 Aug 2010 07:55

    According to my research, this is not Swordmaster: who uses a three dot ellipsis, does not use parentheticals, and is a fucking stupid piece of shit. That's according to my research.

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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Nekhrun » 28 Aug 2010 14:13

    Hi
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Omphalos » 28 Aug 2010 17:47

    SandRider wrote:yeah, you're right ... I've just turned into you over the last two years ...


    :D

    Old slights die hard, huh? I still kick myself in the ass for thinking what I thought about you. What the heck was I smoking?
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandRider » 28 Aug 2010 18:24

    no, no, I've said this several times before - I totally understand;
    that's my point, I do it all the time now, too - Ferreting out Trolls
    is good entertainment ...
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Omphalos » 29 Aug 2010 02:49

    SandRider wrote:no, no, I've said this several times before - I totally understand;
    that's my point, I do it all the time now, too - Ferreting out Trolls
    is good entertainment ...


    Just poke a stick in and start rattling it around. Those damn preeks'll start whining before a minute's passed.
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandChigger » 31 Aug 2010 04:30

    Soft things, sharp stick: best entertainment in town and it's dirt cheap. :lol:


    Achlan wasachlan, ya Shaitan! Ma-ka hiya ma-na! Welcome, doubly welcome, Shaitan. Your water is our water. :)
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby DuneFishUK » 31 Aug 2010 19:06

    Welcome :)
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandRider » 01 Sep 2010 00:56

    say, Chig, I think I kinda like that "your water is our water" ...

    it's sneaky; sounds enough like "mi casa es su casa" that a dumbass
    like Keith or one of his fans would just breeze right over it, and the
    little happy smiley face is the gravy on the chicken fried steak ...

    says the exact same thing as my more direct greeting,
    "Your Water is Ours", an outright Moisture-claiming without
    a guarantee of reciprocation, but with a warm, fuzzy feeling
    attached .... disarming, would make a Wanderer feel safe
    and protected .... and if they fail The Testing, a quick
    crysknife in the eye, and more water-rings for the HoneyTrap ...

    oh yeah, & skin that sumbitch, too ... Thing's drums need new heads ...

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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandChigger » 01 Sep 2010 07:52

    :D

    Just a more literal translation, is all. (I don't think Arabic even has "possessive pronouns" like mine, yours, ours, etc., that you find in most European languages.)
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby merkin muffley » 01 Sep 2010 07:59

    Nice avatar, Omphalos. Sexytime.
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby SandChigger » 01 Sep 2010 12:13

    I just came. :shock:
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Omphalos » 01 Sep 2010 12:21

    It's only temporary, while I search for one that I like. Glad its given you some release, Chig.
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 01 Sep 2010 13:23

    It makes me uncomfortable...
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    Re: Hello there, fellow Orthodox-ians!

    Postby Omphalos » 01 Sep 2010 13:45

    A Thing of Eternity wrote:It makes me uncomfortable...


    Just start into her eyes, Thing. You'll stop fighting it soon enough. :romance-inlove:
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