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I was a member of the Arakeen forums a few years back. I've recently re-read Dune, Messiah and Children about 5 times each and was looking around the internet for a new board to come look at with other Dune dorks, like myself.

I don't remember the first time I read Dune...I'm 100% sure I saw the David Lynch movie first, and was facinated by the landscape. I read Dune for the first time probably within a year or so after the movie came out, and then I didn't re-read it until about 1992-1993 when I was in my first year at undergrad in East Lansing, Michigan. And then I read the series through Chapterhouse a few times....I bought a copy of the Dune Encyclopedia (yea, the rare one that isn't very accurate)...started playing an online text based Dune roleplaying game...and pretty much became convinced that if I smoked enough pot I might be able to see through the veils of time - which still hasn't worked.

I must have purchased Dune (book 1) at least a dozen and a half times from the same used book store and have given then out to friends and co-workers like mormon's hand out bibles - i'm quite sure the book store owner believes i'm a serial killer or something.

I bought a new paperback of God Emperor a couple days ago and started reading it again...for some reason, i've always thought of God Emperor as its own book. I've always thought of Dune, Messiah and Children as "book 1", God Emperor as "book 2", and Heretics and Chapterhouse as an incomplete "book 3". I think it's a chronology thing more than anything.

Finally, I've read a lot of the other Dune based books...the Butlarian Jihad books...the other prequel time books that KA wrote - House Corrino/Atreides/Harkonnen...I've read Volumes 1 and 2 of "book 7"...I even got through the first 2 chapters of Paul of Dune. But, the writing is pretty horrible...the plot lines don't coincide with Frank's original material...and I really don't think I'm going to even finish Paul of Dune (which has been sitting in my bathroom now for almost a year), nor will I even re-read any of the other Duneish prequels.

That's my Dune history in a nutshell, I'm happy to let me water flow through your spirit river.

Borrace wrote:... and pretty much became convinced that if I smoked enough pot I might be able to see through the veils of time - which still hasn't worked.

Well, hell, at least you tried, right?

I'm still trying! I feel like just like Alia did in Messiah when she intentionally OD'd on spice essence and Duncan had to save her...except instead of seeing through time, I just get hungry for pizza and I don't have a pet ghola to get it for me.

Welcome to the sietch!

Welcome!

Borrace wrote:started playing an online text based Dune roleplaying game...

Which one?

DuneFishUK wrote:Welcome!

Borrace wrote:started playing an online text based Dune roleplaying game...

Which one?

DuneMUSH i think it was 1993 or 1994...for about 4-5 months. my character's name was Borrace the Fremen.

hihihi Borrace , pull up a spike and get comfy!!

What was your username at Arakeen?

Well met and Welcome!! Grab a spice beer and join in!

Great intro!

Borrace wrote:

DuneFishUK wrote:Welcome!

Borrace wrote:started playing an online text based Dune roleplaying game...

Which one?

DuneMUSH i think it was 1993 or 1994...for about 4-5 months. my character's name was Borrace the Fremen.

Oh, old school - before my time

i was Borrace at Arakeen!
i was Borrace in DuneMush...
i was Borrace in an old DikuMUD called AlexMUD...

and yes - i've been playing around on the internet before the world wide web was established. and yes, DuneFishUK - I am old school

Welcome!

i was Borrace at Arakeen!

I thought you might say that , I don't recall you.

i didn't post too much...i think i concentrated my posting on the BT because they fascinated me. i was also perplexed by the inconsistencies written by frank about the BT also - like how does a facedancer become a master over a period of 4500 years? (unless Scytale was just a REALLY common BT name)

so yea...i was there. just NOT a whole bunch.

Go get em Tiger. viewforum.php?f=3

Borrace wrote:i didn't post too much...i think i concentrated my posting on the BT because they fascinated me. i was also perplexed by the inconsistencies written by frank about the BT also - like how does a facedancer become a master over a period of 4500 years? (unless Scytale was just a REALLY common BT name)

so yea...i was there. just NOT a whole bunch.

If you do some digging you'll find that this is a hot discussion topic here as well, some rationalizations have been posted, feel free to add your thoughts to old threads. Scytale was definitely not just a name in common, I don't have quotes, but it is made clear that this is the same Scytale that knew Paul.

yeah, with TMB gone AWOL, or kidnapped by the ancient aliens, or done fell down a hopi sweat lodge hole,
the BT have been under-represented lately ....



>> stop cockblocking my posts, Thing ....

I hate Post Review ....

:rolled-up-newspaper-smilie:

Hi.

Helloooooo!!!!!!!!

Welcome, Borrace. I also just started to re-read God Emperor of Dune, and I think I know what you mean when you say it seems to stand alone. He does a lot of innovative things with the form, with the dialogue scenes and the idea that this is a compilation of discovered texts. I think it's also pretty impressive that he can make us sympathize so deeply with a character that's a half-man, half-worm who has been alive for thousands of years.

Don't waste your time on the rest of Paul of Dune. It's all plot yet nothing happens, somehow (SPOILER ALERT! All of the characters who are alive in Dune Messiah survive Paul of Dune!).

Life is too short to waste reading time on books like that.

Achlan wasachlan!

Borrace wrote:i was Borrace at Arakeen!

Good to see a Lost One return from The Scattering!

Welcome on board mate.

merkin wrote: Don't waste your time on the rest of Paul of Dune.

yeah, read the threads here dissecting the thing point by point - better writing and
more value for your dollar ...

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