Jᴀᴄᴜʀᴜᴛᴜ - Tʜᴇ Cᴀsᴛ Oᴜᴛ

Hi, all.

My name is Josh, and although I'm technically a n00b 'round these here parts, I've been a reader of Frank Herbert's works since right around the third grade (starting with a well-worn paperback teacher's copy of The Dosadi Experiment sitting on a classroom shelf, as I recall).

Right now, I'm married and living in the Chicago area, where I'm a practicing attorney specializing in intellectual property law -- my wife's a recently-minted professor at the University of Chicago. At the moment, we have two dogs, a house in the suburbs, and are yoga-practicing vegans. I still get a kick out of turning younger people onto Herbert's work, though nine times out of ten, it usually comes through conversations about either the David Lynch or Sci-Fi Channel Dune adaptations. (Whatever "gateway drug" happens to work best, though, right?)

Found this forum through a random, related Google-search, and it looks like an interesting place to be, especially if you're any type of Herbert-purist, like me. Good to be here!

Hi.

I'm glad you found us!

About the other members...

Keep your hands and feet away from their mouths and try not to make any sudden movements.

Sandrider will be around later to claim your water for the tribe.

Thanks for the welcome!

But what if they're militant, prison-shower-room-unstoppable foot-fetishists?

Lionel Horsepackage wrote:Thanks for the welcome!

But what if they're militant, prison-shower-room-unstoppable foot-fetishists?

You have no idea.

...Oh, fuck.

Achlan wasachlan!

Welcome... and don't worry they're mostly harmless or is that most are harmless or less than most are harming.

oh well, let's just stick with they are mostly harmless.

Welcome, my girl is vegan, I eat vegan or vegitarian 95% of the time.

Are you a honey eating vegan or a non-honey eating vegan? (In which case you probably wouldn't consider a honey eater vegan. )

Welcome. Your Water is Ours.






btw, the dogs went nuts late last night, I went out for a look-see;
they had a 3-foot rattlesnake riled up and backed up against a rock wall ...

I got a cotton hoe, snuck in there and took his head off on the first swing;
waited until the body stopped twisting around (a good five minutes) took a
buck knife & cut off the buttons (rattles) (13 of them, btw, he was a big
ol' mother) buried the head in the garden and threw the body up into a
mesquite tree ....

went out this morning, pulled it down, skinned it, started treating the hide
(big enough for a belt, maybe, certainly a couple of hatbands or a bunch of
small items) took the meat in the house and fried it up for lunch ....

There you go, making good use of the animal you killed. That's the way people should be, if you gotta kill something then make something positive (on top of the obvious not losing a dog/yourself to snake bites) out of it.

Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vegans eat snakes, right? Just no beef? Is that how it works?

Omphalos wrote:Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vegans eat snakes, right? Just no beef? Is that how it works?

You'd fit riiiiggght on in up here in Cow-Town Alberta.

A Thing of Eternity wrote:

Omphalos wrote:Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vegans eat snakes, right? Just no beef? Is that how it works?

You'd fit riiiiggght on in up here in Cow-Town Alberta.

Or Cowtown Sacramento. For what its worth, it's more like Tomatotopia, or Riceville, but we get called "Cowtown" a lot. So we got that going for us.

hihihi Lionel Horsepackage

Well met and Welcome!! grab a spice beer and join in !!

As for the rest of us, DONT PANIC!

yup welcome and welcome welcome

I agree
this

is good advice

Welcome!

Welcome, Lionel Horsepackage.

I don't understand why people eat vegan ... they don't taste good at all ...

Welcome Home!

Thanks, all! Great to see such a response around here -- looking forward to all the discussions to come on these boards.

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Welcome, my girl is vegan, I eat vegan or vegitarian 95% of the time.

Are you a honey eating vegan or a non-honey eating vegan? (In which case you probably wouldn't consider a honey eater vegan. )

Used to be a honey-eater, but after I graduated college (and started making a decent income), I switched to a total, non-animal product dietary regimen. As I found out very early on (to my great financial sorrow), veganism is actually pretty damn expensive! My wife is the same way, except she managed to switch over much sooner than I did.

I see plants as really slow moving animals.

Freakzilla wrote:I see plants as really slow moving animals.

I agree. "Poor defenseless animals" people say. Well, I say those plants are pretty defenseless.

By the way, I love that Fear and Loathing reference. One of my favorite books and HST is one of my favorite writers.

Benicio del Toro, Colonel Depp, (and Terry Gilliam) were awesome.

Lionel Horsepackage wrote:Thanks, all! Great to see such a response around here -- looking forward to all the discussions to come on these boards.

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Welcome, my girl is vegan, I eat vegan or vegitarian 95% of the time.

Are you a honey eating vegan or a non-honey eating vegan? (In which case you probably wouldn't consider a honey eater vegan. )

Used to be a honey-eater, but after I graduated college (and started making a decent income), I switched to a total, non-animal product dietary regimen. As I found out very early on (to my great financial sorrow), veganism is actually pretty damn expensive! My wife is the same way, except she managed to switch over much sooner than I did.

My girl was on the fence with honey for a while, on the one hand she loses the respect of some vegans (who cares?) and on the other hand, supporting beekeepers is one of the most ecologically positive things you can do. I'm a mead maker (honey wine) so I talk with bee keepers lots, they all love their bees and take excellent care of them. As far as I'm concerned humans and bees have formed a very mutually benificial relationship. We get honey and crop pollination (many of the crops we grown simply cannot pollinate without extensive bee hives in the area), and our bees also pollinate wild plants and help out the local ecosystem. The bees get an excellent healthcare program, and good nutritional suppliments. Plus bees generally make about triple the honey they need for the year, and beekeepers never over harvest the honey, their number one concern is the bees making it through the lean times with plenty of honey for themselves (or else they don't last long as beekeepers!). I've seen keepers cry when they find a dead hive, those guys truly love their bees (and their money in all honesty). The environment gets people working their asses off to save the bees that the ecosystem so desperately need.

I do have total respect for people who choose not to eat honey, that's fine by me obviously. But boy will I win an argument over whether or not the over-all ethics end up on the positive side! I totally respect if someone is personally uncomfortable with taking the honey (bees do sometimes get injured or killed in this process too).