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Re: Long time...

Postby Omphalos » 12 Oct 2009 22:03

SandChigger wrote:
Sandwurm88 wrote:I ain't yo.

You ain't yo?

What the fuck does that mean?


I believe that "yo" is the vocative. As in, "I ain't (who you accuse me of being), yo."

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Postby TheDukester » 12 Oct 2009 22:26

True dat, G.
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Postby SandChigger » 12 Oct 2009 22:28

And I thought the board language was English. Silly me. ;)

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Re: Long time...

Postby SandRider » 13 Oct 2009 10:53

Excuse me, stewardess; I speak Jive.
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Re: Long time...

Postby Freakzilla » 13 Oct 2009 18:58

SandRider wrote:Excuse me, stewardess; I speak Jive.


I watched that the other day on TV with my five-year-old, he loved it! Especially the bar scene.
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Postby TheDukester » 13 Oct 2009 23:43

Freakzilla wrote:Especially the bar scene.

"It was a rough place; the seediest dive on the wharf. Populated with every reject and cutthroat from Bombay to Calcutta. It was worse than Detroit."
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Re: Long time...

Postby Schu » 14 Oct 2009 00:12

I love that movie so much.

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Re: Long time...

Postby Seraphan » 14 Oct 2009 07:47

One of the greatest comedies ever made, Airplane.
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Postby Apjak » 14 Oct 2009 10:20

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Postby Schu » 14 Oct 2009 12:20

Weirdly, it was and is still only promoted in Australia as "Fly high", so when people on the net talk about this hilarious movie called Airplane, I first wonder what I've been missing before I realise what people are talking about...

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Re: Long time...

Postby Drunken Idaho » 14 Oct 2009 16:13

Sandwurm88 wrote:Check the IP address again. I am not even in the same time zone as Georgia. :) I still maintain that I am not Sole Man. Email him if you like and ask him. ( The again if he's me, he would just deny it..)


Now, forgive me but I haven't been following this sloey/sandwurm connection much... Just wondering: who ever refers to him as Sole Man? If anyone around here has been asking, wouldn't they have said Sloe man or Sloey or Jackass? And if that's the case, then shouldn't this supposed non-troll be oblivious to the formal name "Sole Man?" Just a thought. Doesn't matter to me either way. If it's him, I'm glad to have him back, but if not then meh...

SandChigger wrote:
Sandwurm88 wrote:I ain't yo.

You ain't yo?

What the fuck does that mean?


Come on Chig, I know you can speak ebonics when the occasion calls for it! We've been doing it a lot around here as of late, it seems... :P
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Re: Long time...

Postby SandChigger » 14 Oct 2009 20:33

Drunken Idaho wrote:ebonics

GODDAMN IT I HATE THAT WORD!!!!! :angry-screaming:





Seriously much. :D

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Re: Long time...

Postby Omphalos » 14 Oct 2009 21:46

SandChigger wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:ebonics

GODDAMN IT I HATE THAT WORD!!!!! :angry-screaming:





Seriously much. :D


Oh, calm down. Really, is there anyone here who doesn't know that? Put it together yet? :D

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Re: Long time...

Postby SandChigger » 14 Oct 2009 23:08

Well ... ahem ... there are new members and all ... have to keep up my lunatic image.... :oops:

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Re: Long time...

Postby SandRider » 14 Oct 2009 23:51

I actually think there's a case for "ebonics", not as a public school subject, of course,
but certainly as an American-English dialect.

conjugating verbs of being, fo'instance:

you be
he be
she be
we be
&etc.

it's easily traced as well, combining West African speech patterns
with the Southern Scottish dialects - being a Southern Man, I've
never had a large time mocking ebonics - who do you think taught
those people to talk like that ?

it's like the "I speak Jive" line from Airplane - in reality, in it's time & place,
it was so-so funny and "edgy", but extremely racist at it's base. Yankees
thought it was funny to put subtitles beneath the black dudes; Southern
(white) people said "I understood every word, what's funny about that ?"

saw a "Gangland" on History the other day, in between Nostradamus shows,
about Memphis gangs; several of the guys interviewed had subtitles - I
understood every word they were saying.

maybe "ebonics" is a bad description of this - I know a lot of Cajuns who
look like "normal" white guys, until they start talking ...

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Re: Long time...

Postby SandChigger » 15 Oct 2009 05:27

Does someone have a GUN?

Anyone?

Come on, for the love of Jayzuss, SHOOT ME ALREADY. :angry-screaming:

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Re: Long time...

Postby SadisticCynic » 15 Oct 2009 11:55

Happy to oblige:

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Re: Long time...

Postby SandChigger » 15 Oct 2009 14:52

(Got a magnifying glass to go with that there? :P )

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Re: Long time...

Postby inhuien » 15 Oct 2009 16:36

Are you really all about size, It's what you do with it. Although.....

....Having this
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Re: Long time...

Postby chanilover » 15 Oct 2009 16:39

I thought the Blacks influened the Whites' speech in the South, due to all the slaves working alongside the rednecks and white trash and rich whitey letting the house slaves raise their kids who copied the speech of the slaves. I read somewhere about how the US southern accent covers the old plantation country, and how white Southerners try to claim their dialect comes from Scottish or English dialects even though no Scottish or English dialects sound like the Southern US dialect, but the thought that Black speech could have influenced the speech of white Americans is like the elephant in the room.
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Postby SandRider » 15 Oct 2009 18:06

white Southerners try to claim their dialect comes from Scottish or English dialects even though no Scottish or English dialects sound like the Southern US dialect,


whoever wrote that was a total idiot.
(maybe this was the same person who keeps trying to convince you the Nazis were 'left-wing' ?)

Chig can confirm this, but most linguists consider the American Southern "accent" to be a
form of Scottish dialect.

rich whitey letting the house slaves raise their kids who copied the speech of the slaves


read that back to yourself out loud ....
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Re: Long time...

Postby Mandy » 15 Oct 2009 18:47

Very few Southerners were rich enough to own slaves.
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Postby SandChigger » 15 Oct 2009 22:03

Yeah, but the ones what did, did all the talkin'. :P

The consensus of the (newer) things I've been reading over the last year or so is that American dialects are all hybrids to a greater or lesser extent and that Black speakers contributed to the vernacular that arose in the South. :)

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Postby Freakzilla » 15 Oct 2009 22:11

SandChigger wrote:Yeah, but the ones what did, did all the talkin'. :P

The consensus of the (newer) things I've been reading over the last year or so is that American dialects are all hybrids to a greater or lesser extent and that Black speakers contributed to the vernacular that arose in the South. :)


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Postby SandRider » 15 Oct 2009 23:35

Blacks arrived on the blocks at Charleston speaking various (related) West African languages.
They were taught English (and to love the little Baby Jesus) by white Southern Americans,
primarily the Ulster-Scots sent to the Carolinas by rich land-owning Englishmen to run their
American estates from the mid-1600s on.

Certainly many West African words entered American-English from this relationship,
as well as random shit like the banjo. However, speech patterns and accents of
American Blacks come from these West Africans learning to speak English with a
Southern (Ulster-Scot) twang.

After Mr. Lincoln freed the slaves, they migrated to the North in great numbers,
(much to the horror and consternation of the white Northerners who had killed
hundreds of thousands of people and destroyed a nation to do so, BTW) thus
you ended up with black people in Detroit & Chicago saying things like "down over yonder"
and "I reckon I'll have me some more of them collard greens".

Mandy wrote:Very few Southerners were rich enough to own slaves.


My research and personal experience is that this idea is a rather recent one, in response
to the Civil Rights movement, the ending of segregation (in the North as well as the
South), the reparations issue, white guilt, &etc.

The last Slave Schedule filed with the Census Bureau in 1856 shows that a rather large proportion
of Southern households owned at least one slave. My second great-grandfather, a minor
planter in central Alabama before The War, owned eight. (These people also moved with
the family from Alabama to Mississippi in 1866, and to Arkansas by 1869. To this day, in the
county where he settled, you can find white and black families with the same family name.)

(this, BTW, does not indicate inter-marriage between the families, but the common practice
of slaves taking their master's family name after The War, as most slaves stayed where they
were and became sharecroppers on the same fields. Taking the former master's last name was
a form of protection & subservience)

I bring that up because I have heard for many years white people in the South saying,
"I don't owe them nothing, my family was too poor to own slaves." After doing a ton of
genealogical research in confirming membership applications for the Sons of Confederate
Veterans, I can almost guarantee you I can turn up a slave-holder in your tree....

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