any Parts of the sequels/prequels that are worth dang?
Posted: 31 May 2008 13:16
Ok before the Powers decend on this post and blast it to oblivion, Ill will try and justify the question, remember its only a question.
I dont want to feed any positve overall vibe about these books in anyway, believe me I feel equally sick as the volume of crap piles up.
I also infatically state I am no fan of BH/KJA as a rule.
So, what am I getting at? well in any volume of garbage, little treasures can be found. Example a landfill, you could go thru it (in a toxic suite and plenty of oxygen) and your bound to find something of value that can be revived or saved.
There are a few wild varibles to this equation of Dune that make the exploration a challenge.
1. With FH gone, no verifyable way to know his thoughts.
2 Inabillity to verify the contents of FH's Notes from the discovered Lockbox.
3. BH/KJA say they are "first and formost Fans of Dune" before writers, but yet they continue the onslaught of garbage.
4. I am not a definative expert on the Classic books ( I have been thru them at least 4 times now) and the others once.
With that understanding (and Im sure I have forgotton a few) I will proceed carefully asking a few initial thoughts on the matter Im getting at.
If we take to consideration that FH had no plans to pass on as early as he did, one could assume he had further plans for Dune. That would lend the logical mind that these could have been kept somewhere in addtion to his mind, hence the probability of these so called "notes" and "outline". I dont want any of the classic books changed, enhanced or tarnished in any fashion.
This is a hope for additional content that only Lightly adds to the series in a fun way. Again before the Hoards decend, go with me here.
Ok, so, IF we have a set of notes, and the pen as a sword stabbing the corpse writers that BH/KJA are, have referenced them, is the following possible:
1. We as readers can (in toxic suit's) wade thru the garbage and find a gem or two?
2. Can these gems be similar to the short stories and additions in Road to Dune? Fun to read, yet not damaging the Classics?
3. What would these be if they were found? I dont know thats why im asking.
a couple possible areas:
1. The school for Swords of Ginaz: Is it possible this is a gem, I found the account of Duncan entertaining. Not the far reaching part of the story, but just the small compartmentalized version.
Example, he is introduced to us as a Sword Master of Ginaz in the original books. Excerpting this from the other books and just written as a short story I find possibly rewarding, yet not damaging to anything. This could lead down a path to a lasgun/shield literary explosion I know, Im just walking cautiously and asking lightly.
2. The passages and history of the original settlers on Dune who became the freemen, and the story of the first wormrider. Possible short story here just for fun?
Im not going further for now, im sure thats enough to be blasted upon, just a start.
I know FH wasnt (and I enjoy the books and style just at they are)into the every detail of things in Dune. But reading his other books as I get to them (whipping star/dosadi, Ascension series, EYE, and others) keeps me wanting and wondering if he might have dabbled in this based off his Plan for the continuation of DUNE.
We cant have FH back, and continued garbage in mass volume isnt necesaary, but maybe discussion that these two did possibly bump into a set of ideas from FH and out of all the garbage managed to get in the ball park on a couple ideas.
Thats mainly what im getting at. Take those few ideas and throw them around for discussion.
See it maybe as some freeman warriors sitting around a fire throwing out stories of the days gone by while BH/KJA are in the tanks collecting their water?
The faith is kept, the story goes on, no harm done.
And also I know there are tons of things to be discussed and shared from the classic books, as well as, continued discussion on the garbage being put forth and how much it is disliked. No intention of changing any of that.
Just flushing out ideas that bounce about my wee skull,
Fairday and fireaway!!
Trang
I dont want to feed any positve overall vibe about these books in anyway, believe me I feel equally sick as the volume of crap piles up.
I also infatically state I am no fan of BH/KJA as a rule.
So, what am I getting at? well in any volume of garbage, little treasures can be found. Example a landfill, you could go thru it (in a toxic suite and plenty of oxygen) and your bound to find something of value that can be revived or saved.
There are a few wild varibles to this equation of Dune that make the exploration a challenge.
1. With FH gone, no verifyable way to know his thoughts.
2 Inabillity to verify the contents of FH's Notes from the discovered Lockbox.
3. BH/KJA say they are "first and formost Fans of Dune" before writers, but yet they continue the onslaught of garbage.
4. I am not a definative expert on the Classic books ( I have been thru them at least 4 times now) and the others once.
With that understanding (and Im sure I have forgotton a few) I will proceed carefully asking a few initial thoughts on the matter Im getting at.
If we take to consideration that FH had no plans to pass on as early as he did, one could assume he had further plans for Dune. That would lend the logical mind that these could have been kept somewhere in addtion to his mind, hence the probability of these so called "notes" and "outline". I dont want any of the classic books changed, enhanced or tarnished in any fashion.
This is a hope for additional content that only Lightly adds to the series in a fun way. Again before the Hoards decend, go with me here.
Ok, so, IF we have a set of notes, and the pen as a sword stabbing the corpse writers that BH/KJA are, have referenced them, is the following possible:
1. We as readers can (in toxic suit's) wade thru the garbage and find a gem or two?
2. Can these gems be similar to the short stories and additions in Road to Dune? Fun to read, yet not damaging the Classics?
3. What would these be if they were found? I dont know thats why im asking.
a couple possible areas:
1. The school for Swords of Ginaz: Is it possible this is a gem, I found the account of Duncan entertaining. Not the far reaching part of the story, but just the small compartmentalized version.
Example, he is introduced to us as a Sword Master of Ginaz in the original books. Excerpting this from the other books and just written as a short story I find possibly rewarding, yet not damaging to anything. This could lead down a path to a lasgun/shield literary explosion I know, Im just walking cautiously and asking lightly.
2. The passages and history of the original settlers on Dune who became the freemen, and the story of the first wormrider. Possible short story here just for fun?
Im not going further for now, im sure thats enough to be blasted upon, just a start.
I know FH wasnt (and I enjoy the books and style just at they are)into the every detail of things in Dune. But reading his other books as I get to them (whipping star/dosadi, Ascension series, EYE, and others) keeps me wanting and wondering if he might have dabbled in this based off his Plan for the continuation of DUNE.
We cant have FH back, and continued garbage in mass volume isnt necesaary, but maybe discussion that these two did possibly bump into a set of ideas from FH and out of all the garbage managed to get in the ball park on a couple ideas.
Thats mainly what im getting at. Take those few ideas and throw them around for discussion.
See it maybe as some freeman warriors sitting around a fire throwing out stories of the days gone by while BH/KJA are in the tanks collecting their water?
The faith is kept, the story goes on, no harm done.
And also I know there are tons of things to be discussed and shared from the classic books, as well as, continued discussion on the garbage being put forth and how much it is disliked. No intention of changing any of that.
Just flushing out ideas that bounce about my wee skull,
Fairday and fireaway!!
Trang