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Postby SandChigger » 20 Jun 2008 23:43

Nor that a smiley the board knows. ^^^

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Postby Phaedrus » 20 Jun 2008 23:53

I don't like the emoticon, so I use my own.

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Postby SandChigger » 21 Jun 2008 01:16

Always marching to a different drumstick, eh Colonel? :P

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Postby orald » 21 Jun 2008 03:52

trang wrote:Or maybe a real talented CGI artist could render GodEmperor on a giant 80 foot screen and he could speak the words himself!!!

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Postby Hunchback Jack » 21 Jun 2008 23:55

To be fair, the "Epic sequel to Dune" thing may not be the HLP's idea at all, but some marketing weenie at Hodder Stoughton and/or Tor. They probably don't even need HLP buy-in to pull something like that.

Not that it disgusts me any less. And I think the renumbering thing might be a real possibility if PoD can be Dune's sequel.

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Postby SandChigger » 22 Jun 2008 01:27

DIRECT sequel.

As opposed to later sequel.

Or distant sequel.

Or preceding sequel.

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You're right, though. It was probably completely out of their hands.

Like so many other things seem to be.

Like...what goes into the books meant to promote FH's legacy, or the content on their website, or .... :roll:
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Postby Omphalos » 22 Jun 2008 02:49

Hunchback Jack wrote:To be fair, the "Epic sequel to Dune" thing may not be the HLP's idea at all, but some marketing weenie at Hodder Stoughton and/or Tor. They probably don't even need HLP buy-in to pull something like that.

Not that it disgusts me any less. And I think the renumbering thing might be a real possibility if PoD can be Dune's sequel.

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Well if you look over at DN it sure seems like the HLP is on board with it all. Byron is defending it.

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Postby Freakzilla » 22 Jun 2008 10:09

Omphalos wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:To be fair, the "Epic sequel to Dune" thing may not be the HLP's idea at all, but some marketing weenie at Hodder Stoughton and/or Tor. They probably don't even need HLP buy-in to pull something like that.

Not that it disgusts me any less. And I think the renumbering thing might be a real possibility if PoD can be Dune's sequel.

HBJ


Well if you look over at DN it sure seems like the HLP is on board with it all. Byron is defending it.


I thought he said that was part of the cover art and totaly done by the publisher?
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Postby Omphalos » 22 Jun 2008 11:07

Did he? I meant that hes saying its correct.

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Postby Freakzilla » 22 Jun 2008 11:35

Omphalos wrote:Did he? I meant that hes saying its correct.


I've seen him say both. That the publishers did it, but it is a sequel... but it doesn't change DM being the sequel.
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Postby orald » 22 Jun 2008 13:55

In short, he's jerking off so many cocks at the same time I wonder where he found all the extra hands, mouths and anuses. And ears. :shock:
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Postby chanilover » 23 Jun 2008 03:39

I think the UK cover has cleared up any confusion. Dune Messiah was just the sequel to Dune, whilst Paul of Dune is the EPIC sequel to Dune, no less. Poor old Dune Messiah, relegated to just being a plain old sequel.
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Postby TheDukester » 23 Jun 2008 05:47

Yeah, Dune Messiah must be feeling bitter right about now. It's hard enough to follow up a classic ... but to be told that you're not even "epic," like that new kid on the block? That just hurts.
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Postby trang » 23 Jun 2008 07:45

Their previous work has shown they get progessivly worse with each book, and the liberties with the storyline are so outrageously bad, that this next "Epic Wedgy" will show their true colors.

They are really diving in all hamfists forward tackling Paul, I fairly confident it will be the Ultimate disaster for them, combine that with their "influence" on a new dune film, and maybe well see the end to the disaster.

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Postby SandChigger » 23 Jun 2008 18:30

For the last frickin' time:

IT'S THE EPIC DIRECT SEQUEL TO DUNE!!!

Get it right, dammit. :evil:


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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 23 Jun 2008 18:31

SandChigger wrote:For the last frickin' time:

IT'S THE EPIC DIRECT SEQUEL TO DUNE!!!

Get it right, dammit. :evil:


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Really think that'll be the last time? :wink:
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Postby SandChigger » 23 Jun 2008 18:40

I'm counting on it not! :lol:
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Postby Hunchback Jack » 02 Jul 2008 12:00

One thing I just noticed about this series that might be interesting:

Simon & Schuster UK has also contracted for our next three DUNE novels -- JESSICA OF DUNE, IRULAN OF DUNE, and LETO OF DUNE.


The Dune series' traditional publisher in the UK has been Gollancz/Hodder & Stoughton for hardcovers, NEL/Hodder for paperbacks. I think I'm right in saying that these are actually the same company, just publishing under different imprints at different times. There may have been some acquisitions as well, I suppose.

Now, I think Hunters, Sandworms and PoD were sold to Hodder as a 3-book deal, so the latter three "heroes" books were up for grabs. I wonder why Hodder didn't take them, after being the Dune publisher for over 30 years?

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Postby inhuien » 02 Jul 2008 12:49

Rats and ships Jack, Rats and ships.
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Postby Hunchback Jack » 02 Jul 2008 13:11

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I suspect perhaps these books aren't selling as well in the UK either. I'd like to think that the publishing company actually cares about FH's legacy, given they have a long history with the man, but realistically it probably comes down to dollars. Or pounds.

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Postby SandChigger » 10 Jul 2008 19:35

From Kevin's latest blog on MySpace, it appears that he and Brian are shooting (oh...oh...oh...ungh!) for a September 2009 release of Jes' Icky Dung.

Evidently they recently came together and pumped out the details. Writing to start in August. (?!?)

You may remember that originally they were going to take a year off between "Heroes" books and work on the books of their new, original (snicker) Smellhole series. I guess this means there is some problem or delay there.

Or maybe it's that the "A 'Dune' book a year" habit is just too hard to break?

Either way, there'll be shit in the air as usual. I'm psyched! :D
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Postby waff » 10 Jul 2008 21:33

I can't wait for Slig of Dune which will follow the life of a slig who winds up on Muad'dib's table and gets ingested with spice, revealing the other memory of his existence as Porky Pig.

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Postby Hunchback Jack » 11 Jul 2008 00:27

Why spend time writing Smellhole when you can churn out another Dune bestseller? I imagine Dune outsells Timeweb and Seven Suns combined.

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Postby SandChigger » 11 Jul 2008 01:18

I should hope. ;)
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Postby TheDukester » 11 Jul 2008 03:12

Hunchback Jack wrote:Why spend time writing Smellhole when you can churn out another Dune bestseller? I imagine Dune outsells Timeweb and Seven Suns combined.

By a factor of 10, I'd guess ... if not considerably more.

Which is both satisfying (proof that KJA can only write bad fanfic in other people's universes) and sad (proof that putting the words "Dune"and "Herbert" on a cover is enough to get the mouth-breathers to buy) at the same time.
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