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    Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby Sandwurm88 » 28 Sep 2012 16:07

    ...that everyone has seemingly gotten tired of shitting on.

    I haven't been following Dune in any way for a few years, whether it be reading the originals or following the mcDune saga so:
    1. What is the latest news on them (the mcDunes)?
    2. What even happened in Sisterhood?
    3. I vaguely recall (this could've been my imagination) some rumor that the Great Schools will be KJA and BH's last Dune series...is this true?
    4. Are they still doing Throne and/or Leto of Dune?
    5. What the fuck is up with the movie? I thought Paramount cancelled it and that was that.
    6. Has a single person on the planet even read Hellhole, or seen it in a bookstore? 'Cause I haven't.
    7. Is dune novels.com and the Dune Facebook pretty much dead and buried?
    8. I just randomly remembered Kantele/Hypatia's old Dune site: Sietch Tabr and remember how pathetic it was. Dat bitch been seen 'round the inter webs lately?

    Thanks for your cooperation.
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby D Pope » 28 Sep 2012 18:59

    Sandwurm88 wrote:...that everyone has seemingly gotten tired of shitting on.

    I haven't been following Dune in any way for a few years, whether it be reading the originals or following the mcDune saga so:
    1. What is the latest news on them (the mcDunes)?
    2. What even happened in Sisterhood?
    3. I vaguely recall (this could've been my imagination) some rumor that the Great Schools will be KJA and BH's last Dune series...is this true?
    4. Are they still doing Throne and/or Leto of Dune?
    5. What the fuck is up with the movie? I thought Paramount cancelled it and that was that.
    6. Has a single person on the planet even read Hellhole, or seen it in a bookstore? 'Cause I haven't.
    7. Is dune novels.com and the Dune Facebook pretty much dead and buried?
    8. I just randomly remembered Kantele/Hypatia's old Dune site: Sietch Tabr and remember how pathetic it was. Dat bitch been seen 'round the inter webs lately?

    Thanks for your cooperation.

    1) Sisterhood was released, it was called a bestseller, it went away. I heard there were two half hearted attempts to defend it.
    2) Totally expected silliness.
    3) There was a contract that specified a number of books. A stray interview revealed 1 or 2 books remaining.
    Truth? Lies? Who knows? Doesn't mean they can't sign new contracts or simply allow kevie to publish.
    4) According to Byron, they're focusing on other projects for now.
    5) Paramount allowed their option to expire, what happens next is anyones guess.
    6) Yes, Amp read it & saw it. Check out his BREAD thread.
    7) Last I looked, it was pretty sad.
    8 ) Before my time.
    Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby D Pope » 29 Sep 2012 02:05

    In short, the Jihad is over. It ended just as SandRider predicted it would, not with a bang or even a whimper, by simple attrition.
    The preeqs, it seems, simply outgrew mcDune. Too embarrassed to admit their error, they've drifted on to some other shiny thing.
    14evin has either realized the half life nature of his 'fan base' or been lured by dreams of profits into publishing... either way, he's
    got something new to exploit. Brian seems to have made some friends. Without Dune, I don't expect to hear from him again. In
    my opinion, the official wasteland would've died years earlier but for the prolific OH puppetry that kept it afloat.

    My prediction;
    In a few years the HLP accounts will begin to tighten up and some time after the lawyers get sacked, the family will miss a deadline
    or forget to write a check allowing some vigilant Orthodox Herbertarion to scoop up the rights and make some proper history.

    :pray:
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby Sandwurm88 » 30 Sep 2012 19:58

    Hahaha, wow, that's sort of the general gist I got from the lack of information on the Internet about it. I'm thinking Great Schools might not even get completed, but if they do, they'll be the last ones we'll see. Good to see that mcDune is already fading into history. :)
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby lotek » 01 Oct 2012 04:49

    Sandwurm88 wrote:...that everyone has seemingly gotten tired of shitting on.



    We weren't.
    There just wasn't any room left.
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby Ampoliros » 01 Oct 2012 19:38

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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby SandRider » 01 Oct 2012 20:25

    if I'm remembering this right, Keith twitted that he & Brian were swapping the
    final edits on Mentats ... like maybe last week or before last Thursday, maybe ....
    hard to keep track of that greasy little fucker without going back thru my RSS feed
    reader's archives of all his twits (which I do keep, BTW .... backed up on an
    external hard drive AND on mozy .... so ... yeah, fuck you, Keith .... mouth-off
    on some fan-boy's blahg e-interview if'n you want to) but I can barely bring
    myself to read them as they come in, much less dig thru to find the ones on Mentats ....
    I got tired of the daily monitoring of His Assness, hoping only to catch him posting
    something really stupid or offensive .... but these days, it's all about the Rush
    thing ... oh, and the Zombie Dick .... and something about a prequel or alternate
    timeline 7 Suns thing, I skip over most of that shit ... oh yeah, and something about
    another H.G. Wells/Nemo/Sherlock Holmes steampunk thing ... and somewhere along
    the way, he claimed to have invented steampunk, or something, but I think that
    was in some copy-pasta email the Pope put in the Basement Archive @T(A)U ....

    oh yeah, and he walked up an apparently steep hill in Colorado, and went to a
    Star Trek convention ....
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby lotek » 02 Oct 2012 05:28

    He must have been doing an Ultra Marathon.
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby D Pope » 03 Oct 2012 22:45

    Oddly enough I was writing steampunk back in the ’80s
    before anyone knew it should be called steampunk.

    There ya go, he's always been a hack on the edge.



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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby Ampoliros » 04 Oct 2012 02:07

    I have this weird feeling, like steampunk is for very pretentious and uppity sci-fi lovers. or at least those are the kinds of people who take over steampunk. Especially cos-play steampunk.

    Like its for the people who take it way too far.

    I think perhaps the Victorian ideals subconsciously attract an undercurrent of people who want to dress up posh and act snotty, while holding a smartphone with gears glued to the case.


    Just a feeling.

    Also, steampunk was called steampunk in the 80's. By 1981 if I believe correctly...
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    Re: Quick Questions about the McDune books...

    Postby Serkanner » 04 Oct 2012 04:45

    Ampoliros wrote:I have this weird feeling, like steampunk is for very pretentious and uppity sci-fi lovers. or at least those are the kinds of people who take over steampunk. Especially cos-play steampunk.

    Like its for the people who take it way too far.

    I think perhaps the Victorian ideals subconsciously attract an undercurrent of people who want to dress up posh and act snotty, while holding a smartphone with gears glued to the case.


    Just a feeling.

    Also, steampunk was called steampunk in the 80's. By 1981 if I believe correctly...



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