Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Ampoliros » 11 May 2012 17:59

gurensan wrote:I can't read the interview. Call me newly, selectively illiterate.

But it did occur to me that the reason why hunters and sandsquirms were so long (and split into two paperbacks to be purchased separately) is because he takes 5 pages to do what FH does in a single paragraph.



But mostly because of the bolded part. Why sell one book when you can sell two! Fanbois love that trilogy crap, especially when its easily digested. And when publisher's look at your resume, they see more books written and sold. KJA is a businessman and a circus hack first, and a writer never.

If you could pick a character/institution from Dune to write the new books, most of us would pick Leto II or Paul. KJA would pick CHOAM.
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

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Q)...What is it about teaming up with other writers/creators that you find so appealing and who else do you wish you could work with?

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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Mr. Teg » 13 May 2012 08:08

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Q)...What is it about teaming up with other writers/creators that you find so appealing and who else do you wish you could work with?

Kevin: I enjoy brainstorming with fellow writers, exchanging ideas, and learning from other writers’ techniques. To me, it’s a natural thing, almost like a game, to work with someone else to tell stories. You have to check your ego at the door, make sure you both have the same vision for the novel, and lean on each other.



Q) What is it about teaming up with other writers/creators that you find so appealing and who else do you wish you could work with?

Kevin: I enjoy barnstorming with fellow writers, trying different livestock, and learning from others' depravity. To me, it's a natural thing, almost like a game, to lend a helping hand. You have to check your ego at the door, make sure you both are sensitive to each other's needs, yet really lean into each other while rolling in the hay. A little known fact is I was the screenwriter for the CSI episode "Fur and Loathing."

Q) Your wife is often by your side at book signings and conventions. Is she also an important collaborator?

Kevin: Sometimes...mostly she just likes rolling in the mud. I learned about bestial power under the tutelage of L Ron Hubbard. He was not only a supeb writer but truly a master of the occult. The core of the WOTF is actually centered on the power of the beast. The letters W.O.T.F. also means Writers of the Fur. The first original fur con...

Q) The WOTF is an occult organization? Isn't Brian Herbert both your collaborator and member of WotF, too?

Kevin: Yes, he's a little chicken fucker. You can read about his father's chicken coup in the Dreamer of Dune.

Q) Do you have a favorite animal?

Kevin: My spirit guide is a donkey..

Q) Donkey?

Kevin: A donkey is rugged, climbs mountains, handles a huge load.
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Omphalos » 13 May 2012 11:45

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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Ampoliros » 13 May 2012 12:25

Wouldn't he be more of a mule? A bastard hybrid of a two working animals into a genetically sterile half breed with all the worst qualities of both its parents and hardly any of the good, so much so that one of the good traits is said sterility keeping it from breeding?
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby lotek » 14 May 2012 05:29

My spirit guide is a donkey..


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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

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In your face, space coyote!
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby lotek » 14 May 2012 07:15

I find that reference cromulent

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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Freakzilla » 14 May 2012 08:30

lotek wrote:I find that reference cromulent


It is...

In the Simpsons episode where Homer eats the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper, he see's a coyote in the sky (voice of Johnny Cash) who tells him he is his spirit guide and to find his sould mate. When Homer realizes Marge is his soul mate, that is his reply.
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby lotek » 14 May 2012 08:42

I had to google your quote though, as much as I like the simpsons, since I've seen quite a few episodes in french (in the dark ages, before online streaming) I never heard the original word.
As a note I'd like to say that being bilingual I'm quite picky on translations/adaptations, and the Simpsons' french voices are just as good, even better sometimes than the original(and you can trust my objectivity because apart from that I believe 99% of the French versions of anything are shit_Malcolm in the Middle was a good one too,a nd of course the A team.)

And I did see that episode but didn't know it was voiced by the Man in Black !
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Postby Freakzilla » 14 May 2012 09:07

I think that was one of their best.
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby lotek » 14 May 2012 09:24

knowing it has Johnny Cash in it makes it even more special :)
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Postby Freakzilla » 14 May 2012 10:50

Well, I had to google 'cromulent' so we're even! :P
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby SadisticCynic » 14 May 2012 12:06

How does cromulent come out in French?
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby lotek » 14 May 2012 12:17

good question, I'll look it up :)
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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby SandChigger » 24 Jul 2012 16:21

Mr. Teg wrote:
Demerzel wrote:
Q)...What is it about teaming up with other writers/creators that you find so appealing and who else do you wish you could work with?

Kevin: I enjoy brainstorming with fellow writers, exchanging ideas, and learning from other writers’ techniques. To me, it’s a natural thing, almost like a game, to work with someone else to tell stories. You have to check your ego at the door, make sure you both have the same vision for the novel, and lean on each other.



Q) What is it about teaming up with other writers/creators that you find so appealing and who else do you wish you could work with?

Kevin: I enjoy barnstorming with fellow writers, trying different livestock, and learning from others' depravity. To me, it's a natural thing, almost like a game, to lend a helping hand. You have to check your ego at the door, make sure you both are sensitive to each other's needs, yet really lean into each other while rolling in the hay. A little known fact is I was the screenwriter for the CSI episode "Fur and Loathing."

Q) Your wife is often by your side at book signings and conventions. Is she also an important collaborator?

Kevin: Sometimes...mostly she just likes rolling in the mud. I learned about bestial power under the tutelage of L Ron Hubbard. He was not only a supeb writer but truly a master of the occult. The core of the WOTF is actually centered on the power of the beast. The letters W.O.T.F. also means Writers of the Fur. The first original fur con...

Q) The WOTF is an occult organization? Isn't Brian Herbert both your collaborator and member of WotF, too?

Kevin: Yes, he's a little chicken fucker. You can read about his father's chicken coup in the Dreamer of Dune.

Q) Do you have a favorite animal?

Kevin: My spirit guide is a donkey..

Q) Donkey?

Kevin: A donkey is rugged, climbs mountains, handles a huge load.

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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Omphalos » 24 Jul 2012 18:32

Holy crap, I forgot about this one. Nice.

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Re: Kja's excuse ? "it's Frank Herbert's fault"

Postby Shaitan » 04 Aug 2012 19:47

Omphalos wrote:
Serkanner wrote:
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Serkanner wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:Yes but we wouldn't be together at all if not for our love of FH.


:clap: ... indeed we are. If not for Frank Herbert my girlfriend and I wouldn't be together ( for almost nine years now ).


You're a lucky guy to find such a cutie that's a Dune fan, I'm jealous. :mrgreen:


I am a VERY lucky guy. Previously Laura wasn't much of a science fiction fan but just liked Dune. After she met me I have bombarded her with great science fictions novels. She has devoured books by Banks, Mieville, Niven, Pohl, Heinlein, reynolds et al. Her education is progressing very nicely.


I prayed for that with my wife. Nope.


I'm somewhere in between....I wish my wife had more time and perhaps a deeper appreciation for the great works of the sci-fi pantheon, but she's read a few and at least understands *some* of my references when I get babbling on about them -- particularly in terms of explaining my influences and "what-not-to-do's" (here's where the KJA hate comes back into the topic again, for one thing) -- plus she comes from a nice Trekkie family so I can't entirely fault her for sort of only having one foot into that world. She does make an effort, and does have an interest, it's just not the kind of uberfan supergeek thing I might have wished for in an ideal world....but then, it's hard to find one of those girls that also likes to mountain bike, and while I was still healthy, we did a lot of riding together. So I really shouldn't go complaining that I didn't get a lot in the lady/reproductive partner department.

Our two amazing kids, at least one of which is a rabid epic sci-fi fan already and has grown up on tales from my own planned works (if only I'd recorded all those nights talking to him in bed, I'd probably have my series scripts or at least the detailed outlines 2/3rds finished by now, heh!) and the other who shows much interest but is still a little young to expose to most of the written greats or a good portion of the film versions yet -- are a testament to that. 8-)
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