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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Jan 2012 19:28

    SandChigger wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:"...there is only do do?"

    Yes. Plenty of do do in this book. :lol:


    Thanks ... you have done me again. :evil:
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Hunchback Jack » 20 Jan 2012 20:51

    Back on topic, this:

    http://vimeo.com/34545393

    Here's the thing: when I see Brian interviewed like this, I kind of want to like him. He spent an awful lot of this interview talking about Frank rather than about the latest steaming pile he wrote with KJA, and he sounds like he respects what his father has done. If we can take what he says at face value, I think his biggest mistakes are 1) teaming up with KJA, and 2) believing that the new books do the old books any justice at all (which he seems to believe).

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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby D Pope » 20 Jan 2012 21:02

    Now he says that he and kevie published Mohiam being Jessicas mother before finding it in Franks notes.

    It's nice to see that the bookstore has bought some blinds.
    Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Jan 2012 21:17

    D Pope wrote:Now he says that he and kevie published Mohiam being Jessicas mother before finding it in Franks notes.

    It's nice to see that the bookstore has bought some blinds.


    Wut? Where?
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    “There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”

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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby D Pope » 20 Jan 2012 21:45

    It's at 5:30 -+ I can't go much beyond that.
    Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Jan 2012 21:56

    D Pope wrote:It's at 5:30 -+ I can't go much beyond that.


    Fook! Now I need to listen to the garbage to have an intelligent stance on matters.
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    “There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”

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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Omphalos » 21 Jan 2012 02:11

    Serkanner wrote:
    D Pope wrote:It's at 5:30 -+ I can't go much beyond that.


    Fook! Now I need to listen to the garbage to have an intelligent stance on matters.


    Nothing about that will make you intelligent, amigo.

    Didn't we always say that the worst thing Steve could do is let BH off on his own with a microphone? Seems like he's living up to his reputation well, saying all kinds of dopey shit.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby SandChigger » 21 Jan 2012 06:47

    Alcohol-addled fool... or EVIL MASTERMIND?! :lol:
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    I...had written a bunch of Star Wars and X-Files books...that proved not just that I'm a hack, but that I could write in somebody else's universe... —KJA
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Freakzilla » 21 Jan 2012 09:57

    :think:



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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby D Pope » 28 Jan 2012 08:12

    Library Journal wrote:VERDICT: With their usual fidelity to the vision of the late Frank Herbert, coauthors Herbert (Frank’s son) and Anderson (The Winds of Dune) continue to...
    Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Apjak » 29 Jan 2012 18:24

    Listening to that video on a tab in the background. It almost sounds like the movie was derailed because they were pushing to have "House Atreides" made instead of "Dune".
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby trang » 30 Jan 2012 15:23

    I made it 7 minutes in listening to him, couldn't go any farther, his voice causes me to go to sleep.

    Legends was a load of crap.

    POD and WOD sold terrible (and were the largest turds to date) and showed how they have no business writing in between canon.

    They know they have full license to write however and whatever they want before and after, and will continue to
    Do so with no remorse.

    From the reviews, Sisterhood stacks up with the rest of the trash.

    Let the blind (bh-kja followers)wander into the dessert where the Coriolis or worms will take them and erase any trace. The faithful(orthodox-herbertarians) will prevail and continue.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby trang » 30 Jan 2012 15:26

    Apjak wrote:Listening to that video on a tab in the background. It almost sounds like the movie was derailed because they were pushing to have "House Atreides" made instead of "Dune".


    that was an interesting tidbit, "Complex negotiations" mean BH-KJA stood there holding out to do their movie instead of Dune and probably derailed the whole dam thing.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby DuneFishUK » 30 Jan 2012 16:00

    trang wrote:
    Apjak wrote:Listening to that video on a tab in the background. It almost sounds like the movie was derailed because they were pushing to have "House Atreides" made instead of "Dune".


    that was an interesting tidbit, "Complex negotiations" mean BH-KJA stood there holding out to do their movie instead of Dune and probably derailed the whole dam thing.

    Can no be arsed to watch that vid, but...

    The traditional story is that the hacks rocked up to Paramount with a pitch for House Atreides - They thought it was more action-friendly, easier to convert into a proper franchise (FH never took the easy route when it came to sequels) and Keith would love to see one of his books adapted. The one thing that gave me hope with the movie deal is that the Paramount boss came right out and said - "Fuck off! Real Dune or nothing!"

    :)

    Against my better judgement... I like that guy...
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Freakzilla » 19 Aug 2012 19:04

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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Nekhrun » 19 Aug 2012 21:17

    What's with the fucking PDF file?
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby lotek » 20 Aug 2012 05:07

    GOD EMPEROR OF DUNE: Centuries have passed on Dune, and the planet is green
    with life. Leto, the son of Dune's savior, is still alive but far from human, and the fate of all
    humanity hangs on his awesome sacrifice. This is a great novel, a story of love, war, and
    sacrifice.


    Is this some sort of game ?
    Find how many things are wrong in this statement and win a puke bag.

    My favourite one "his awesome sacrifice".
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Aug 2012 05:58

    Dune's savior?
    "... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."

    “There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”

    Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
    and wrote a Dune Novel."
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby lotek » 20 Aug 2012 06:25

    I'm not sure I see them all ^^
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Ampoliros » 20 Aug 2012 15:58

    It doesn't mention that he's a were-worm!
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby ULFsurfer » 20 Aug 2012 17:43

    I need a puke bag so here's my contribution:

    lotek wrote:
    GOD EMPEROR OF DUNE: Centuries (more like millenia) have passed on Dune, and the planet is green with life (Ok, it's become green, but there was life there before as well). Leto, the son of Dune's savior (Muad'Dib wasn't a "savior"), is still alive but far from human (Leto was very human), and the fate of all humanity hangs on his awesome (what's so awesome about it?) sacrifice. This is a great novel, a story of love, war (what war??), and sacrifice (repeated word).


    Is this some sort of game ?
    Find how many things are wrong in this statement and win a puke bag.


    That was some good warming up exercise before the teaching begins this semester..
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby lotek » 21 Aug 2012 05:14

    Very good analysis !

    Doesn't this synopsis (for want of a better word) read like one of those students' copies when they haven't actually read the book?
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Freakzilla » 21 Aug 2012 05:51

    It sounds like the back cover of the paperback.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby lotek » 21 Aug 2012 06:18

    I'd go even further, it sounds like someone trying to remember the back of a paperback they read while pretending to be hiking watching DVDs.
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    Re: Shitterhood rage

    Postby Freakzilla » 21 Aug 2012 16:50

    Actually, that's EXACTLY what it says on the back of the paperback. (Berkley 1984 & Ace 1987)

    I knew I'd seen that before.
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