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Postby TheDukester » 01 Feb 2011 16:48

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Postby merkin muffley » 01 Feb 2011 16:53

Do it, Rockapella.
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Postby Ampoliros » 01 Feb 2011 20:38

SandChigger wrote:Either way, this is probably much later than the period to be smeared with the steaming bloody piles of the Great Stools. ;)


You mean if they remain internally consistent?
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Postby SandChigger » 01 Feb 2011 23:26

Oh, right.

Silly me, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING?! :doh:

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Postby SandChigger » 18 Feb 2011 18:15

I'm not sure when the change was made, but Amazon UK is now giving "2 Feb 2012" as the date for the release of SHITTERHOOD OF DUNE by Slimon & Scheister.

(It must have been a mistake from the start, right? I mean, my recent post about grabbing a UK copy in September and spoiling the fuck out of it in the four or five months before the US release... NAH! :hand: :naughty: )

Still no page on US Amazon.

SO THAT REALLY DOES MEAN NO McDUNE IN 2011!!! :dance:
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Postby Kojiro » 18 Feb 2011 18:52

Tor seems to be ambivalent over this new "book."
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Postby SandChigger » 19 Feb 2011 02:25

Well, the people concerned at both ROT/Gorge and Slimon & Scheister are complete fucking idiots if they're not watching Anderson & Herbert and how they're approaching this next book & series. Anderson is like a lab rat with electrodes buried in his sex center: you know he wasn't going to quit pushing that Heroes button until he and Dune dropped over dead. So that means the publishers killed the juice, not him & Bobo jonesin' to get their post-Legends groove on. And from what we've seen thus far nothing whatsoever has changed: Hack & Bobes (supposedly) brainstormed and shot their creative juices like a pair of premature ejaculator mink with Anderson (and, evidently BoBo, too) working on other projects at the same time. Now Anderson is posting little tidbits to make it look like the process is still ongoing, but from what he's posted before I think we can safely say that the Prose is Polished and the thing pretty much done. (And even if it gets sent back for major revisions once HE SUBMITS the final manuscript, we'll never hear anything about it. Unless he gets so pissed off at the affront of having a MERE copy-editor DARE to suggest his work needs improvement that he slips and bitches about it on Twitter.)

The "writers" and the completely useless/impotent HLP aren't going to stop this stupidity, so it looks like we're going to have to look to the publishers to stop it. And the only way that will happen is if the books continue to fail in the marketplace.

Pall of Dumb did badly, Jessica's Winds of Doom did even worse. Will there still be enough dedicated fanboys left to revive McDune with sales of Shitterhood?

Let's hope not.

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Postby Kojiro » 19 Feb 2011 02:47

At this point I'm hoping to see "Cancelled" pop up concerning this project. And then a week later, it comes out from a hastily assembled self-publisher called "KJAdventure!" and the pages just fly out of the binding because they cheaped on the glue and used bubblegum instead. Oh yes, and you'll be able to see Jabecca's Cheato-covered fingerprints on each page because she did the assembling. :)
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Postby SandChigger » 19 Feb 2011 05:13

Nah, they'll end up publishing on the Kindle and other e-book devices, wait and see.

And KJA will spin it as being "in the vanguard of technological development ... as befits a best-selling SCIENCE-FICTION writer"! :lol:

The best fiction being that he's a writer! :P
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Postby D Pope » 19 Feb 2011 11:18

SandChigger wrote:Well, the people concerned at both ROT/Gorge and Slimon & Scheister are complete fucking idiots if they're not watching Anderson & Herbert and how they're approaching this next book & series. Anderson is like a lab rat with electrodes buried in his sex center: you know he wasn't going to quit pushing that Heroes button until he and Dune dropped over dead. So that means the publishers killed the juice, not him & Bobo jonesin' to get their post-Legends groove on. And from what we've seen thus far nothing whatsoever has changed: Hack & Bobes (supposedly) brainstormed and shot their creative juices like a pair of premature ejaculator mink with Anderson (and, evidently BoBo, too) working on other projects at the same time. Now Anderson is posting little tidbits to make it look like the process is still ongoing, but from he's posted before I think we can safely say that the Prose is Polished and the thing pretty much done. (And even if it gets sent back for major revisions once HE SUBMITS the final manuscript, we'll never hear anything about it. Unless he gets so pissed off at the affront of having a MERE copy-editor DARE to suggest his work needs improvement that he slips and bitches about it on Twitter.)

The "writers" and the completely useless/impotent HLP aren't going to stop this stupidity, so it looks like we're going to have to look to the publishers to stop it. And the only way that will happen is if the books continue to fail in the marketplace.

Pall of Dumb did badly, Jessica's Winds of Doom did even worse. Will there still be enough dedicated fanboys left to revive McDune with sales of Shitterhood?

Let's hope not.

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Postby SandChigger » 19 Feb 2011 19:46

:oops:


(Oops! Found a typo... after it was published! :laughing-rolling: Guess I was too busy watching the tube while proofreading! :laughing: )

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:lol: :laughing: :lol:
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Postby Kojiro » 20 Feb 2011 01:57

Isn't that what editors are f—Oh right, we're talking about KJA.
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Postby Ampoliros » 20 Feb 2011 15:57

KJA, the A stands for Adited.
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Postby Sev » 07 Apr 2011 05:51

What a shock, Dozer and Jabs have lunch with the Doherty's - and immediately announce a change for the forthcoming McDune - like that's never happened before :wink:

Unfortunately the abomination is still being published, but it's name has changed. No longer The Sisterhood of Dune, now it's merely Sisterhood of Dune. The excised The makes all the difference, no? :crazy:

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Postby inhuien » 07 Apr 2011 07:59

Someone obviously felt it was more in keeping with Franks canon.
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inhuien wrote:Someone obviously felt it was more in keeping with Franks canon.


Since when has that been an issue?
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Postby Ampoliros » 07 Apr 2011 11:11

I'm just wondering how they are going to implement the whole 'shaved head' thing.


Oh and from the blag there was this gem:

I’m doing a last fine polish to the manuscript of my humorous zombie detective novel (an on-spec book)


Why would he mention it was on-spec? Why has it taken him this long to jump on the whole necrophilia craze? Why do I keep asking these questions when the answer is probably designed to kill brain cells....
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Postby TheDukester » 07 Apr 2011 11:24

I like how Keith also tries to pass it off as being a decision from he and Bobo. "We decided ..."

Um, no. Publishers have always reserved the right to do what they wish with titles. It's pretty obvious that edict came down from Tommy D. the Tor Guy.

I'm sure Spanky seethed. Bobo probably just drooled.
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Freakzilla wrote:
inhuien wrote:Someone obviously felt it was more in keeping with Franks canon.


Since when has that been an issue?
Perhaps never.
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Postby Kojiro » 07 Apr 2011 17:21

Ampoliros wrote:I'm just wondering how they are going to implement the whole 'shaved head' thing.


Oh and from the blag there was this gem:

I’m doing a last fine polish to the manuscript of my humorous zombie detective novel (an on-spec book)


Why would he mention it was on-spec? Why has it taken him this long to jump on the whole necrophilia craze? Why do I keep asking these questions when the answer is probably designed to kill brain cells....


Wow, a zombie novel that actually eats the reader's brains. Now THAT is a feat.
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Postby SandRider » 07 Apr 2011 18:00

they're shooting another Civil War zombie movie right now ....
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Postby SadisticCynic » 07 Apr 2011 19:30

Kojiro wrote:
Ampoliros wrote:I'm just wondering how they are going to implement the whole 'shaved head' thing.


Oh and from the blag there was this gem:

I’m doing a last fine polish to the manuscript of my humorous zombie detective novel (an on-spec book)


Why would he mention it was on-spec? Why has it taken him this long to jump on the whole necrophilia craze? Why do I keep asking these questions when the answer is probably designed to kill brain cells....


Wow, a zombie novel that actually eats the reader's brains. Now THAT is a feat.


:lol: Nice one!
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Postby Nekhrun » 08 Apr 2011 12:44

Now that sales are lagging for Hellhole maybe we'll see some kind of tie-in to the Dune Universe.
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Postby SandChigger » 08 Apr 2011 14:09

Nekhrun wrote:Now that sales are lagging for Hellhole maybe we'll see some kind of tie-in to the Dune Universe.

Ooh... CROSSOVER!!! :angry-screaming:

:lol:

Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #26,766 in Books

Meh. I think it's been as low as the 30,000s.
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