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    Postby Seraphan » 13 Jan 2009 12:02

    I've got 3 of 'em.
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    Postby Schu » 13 Jan 2009 12:19

    I've escaped with only having bought two, one being second hand (telling, huh? :P )
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    Postby Schu » 13 Jan 2009 12:57

    the road to dune has at least some merit. But only because a lot of it is FH words unaltered.
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    Postby Schu » 13 Jan 2009 13:09

    Baraka Bryan wrote:
    Schu wrote:the road to dune has at least some merit. But only because a lot of it is FH words unaltered.


    yeah like 1/3


    That's better than their other output by a factor of about 1000.
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    Postby Freakzilla » 13 Jan 2009 13:16

    We can cut the "Spice Planet" pages out to burn them.
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    Postby Schu » 13 Jan 2009 13:54

    I'm up for that.
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    Postby SandChigger » 13 Jan 2009 15:40

    Schu wrote:the road to dune has at least some merit. But only because a lot of it is FH words unaltered.

    Was I the only one who, reading certain passages, wondered about that sometimes? :?
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    Postby Sole Man » 13 Jan 2009 15:47

    I'm telling you, as soon as I can get a digital cmaera I'll film me buring some of the hack's books. (Hey! Maybe I'll montage it andset it too 'Burning for you' by the Blue oyster Cult!)
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    Re: on GEoD

    Postby Drunken Idaho » 13 Jan 2009 16:35

    Sole Man wrote:I started GEoD today. I'm so happy! (I wish I could make sweet love to Heidi Klum)

    Let's see...How Leto have them executed?

    Not sure. Here's how I would do it:

    Have them tied to stakes and whipped until unconscopius. When they reawke, have a man in a robe and hood douse them in gasoline and and burn them alive. Then, in their final moments, reveal the gasoline man to be none other than Frank Herbert, his smiling bearded watching paternally over them as they die. [/i]


    Holy shit, it's about time.

    If it weren't for God Emperor, I doubt I'd ever have felt the need to hang around a Dune discussion board.

    Well are you enjoying it? Stupid question, I know...
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    Postby Freakzilla » 13 Jan 2009 16:48

    GEoD is tough to get through the first time, hang in there Sole Man.
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    On GEoD

    Postby Sole Man » 13 Jan 2009 21:02

    I mean, its good...(I'm reading it comming of off A BREIF HISTORY OF TIME) but I think its making me real depressed. But I think she is too, so it might be affecting me.

    Hurm...
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    Postby Drunken Idaho » 13 Jan 2009 22:56

    Sole Man wrote:I mean, its good...(I'm reading it comming of off A BREIF HISTORY OF TIME) but I think its making me real depressed. But I think she is too, so it might be affecting me.

    Hurm...


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    Re: On GEoD

    Postby TheDukester » 14 Jan 2009 01:24

    Drunken Idaho wrote:Dump that bitch.

    = "just let the air out ... "
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    Re: On GEoD

    Postby Freakzilla » 14 Jan 2009 10:09

    Sole Man wrote:(I'm reading it comming of off A BREIF HISTORY OF TIME)


    I only made it about 3/4 of the way through that before he lost me, I'll have to try it again sometime.
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    Postby Frybread » 14 Jan 2009 11:14

    Freakzilla wrote:GEoD is tough to get through the first time, hang in there Sole Man.


    Yeah, GEoD is one of those books that I liked but didn't quite understand on the first reading. I'm on my second reading of it and it's much easier and more enjoyable this time around.

    But even my first reading of GEoD made it clear that anything FH wrote was much better than the new books.
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    Postby dunepunk » 14 Jan 2009 13:02

    GEoD by itself is evidence of Frank Herbert's genius. And, judging by the "conclusion" in Grunters/Sadworms, it's absolutely obvious BH and KJA totally missed the whole point... sad... :cry:
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    Postby Freakzilla » 14 Jan 2009 13:14

    dunepunk wrote:GEoD by itself is evidence of Frank Herbert's genius. And, judging by the "conclusion" in Grunters/Sadworms, it's absolutely obvious BH and KJA totally missed the whole point... sad... :cry:


    I think that nulifying Leto IIs sacrafice and negating the GP is worst thing they could have possibly done. All the other inconsistancies are nothing compared, this is blasphemy.
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    Postby dunaddict » 22 Jan 2009 19:57

    Freak, you don't understand. BH/KJA had to, because it was in Frank's outline for Dune-7. It was his plan to make his previous three Dune books completely pointless.

    Killer-cyborgs with brain-jars, robot-clowns in drag, Saint Scytale the just, psychopath-bitch Murbella, a Sandworm deep-throat scene, chunks of meat flying around every three pages.
    It all blends so naturally with the end of Chapterhouse. Surely you recognize the style of the master when you see it?
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    Postby SandChigger » 22 Jan 2009 22:17

    :lol:

    Now go post that on DN. I dare you. :twisted:
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    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jan 2009 09:53

    :puke:

    I knew we'd put some miles on that smilie!
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    Postby Lundse » 23 Jan 2009 11:22

    Freakzilla wrote:
    dunepunk wrote:GEoD by itself is evidence of Frank Herbert's genius. And, judging by the "conclusion" in Grunters/Sadworms, it's absolutely obvious BH and KJA totally missed the whole point... sad... :cry:


    I think that nulifying Leto IIs sacrafice and negating the GP is worst thing they could have possibly done. All the other inconsistancies are nothing compared, this is blasphemy.


    I beg to differ...

    Fucking up the finely crafted commentary on heroes and hero-worship by introducing the midget-God and her deux-ex-machina-solutions is just as bad.

    And ruining the Butlerian Jihads relevance for, and resonance with, all the ongoing plots and themes in the chronicles is equally blasfemous.

    I think you will find your outrage over nullifying all of Leto II's work is based on the obviousness of it, it's clarity. It is a giant finger to both Leto II the character, and to GEoD the book!
    As well as a giant stinkpile and insult to to Frank and his fans, of course - but that goes for all their Dune writings.


    Oh my, the dynamic duo has truly divided the fanbase... Or maybe it just shows us which things in Dune we liked the most - when we see them slandered and ridiculed!
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    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jan 2009 11:26

    But the Normacle is what nullifies everyting Leto did, now his GP is just a vision inside her vision.

    I mean, she can see the back of her head! Who can compete with that?
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    Postby SandChigger » 23 Jan 2009 13:03

    No, she can see the back of her head from all the way around the frickin' universe, Freak!

    RAD. :D

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    Frank's books as biased or false in-universe texts while theirs tell the "true version" is the ultimate slap in the face.
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    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jan 2009 13:12

    SandChigger wrote:No, she can see the back of her head from all the way around the frickin' universe, Freak!

    RAD. :D

    :roll:


    Frank's books as biased or false in-universe texts while theirs tell the "true version" is the ultimate slap in the face.


    Yeah, I take it back, that's pretty damned low.
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    Postby dunaddict » 23 Jan 2009 16:09

    Could have been worse though: Sandworms of Dune, last scene:

    Paul Atreides wakes up in his bed on Caladan, bathing in sweat. It was all just a nightmare. The End.


    Speaking of Nightmares. Who would have thought back in 1999, when the first prequel was published, that they would fuck up so BADLY.
    I mean, it's kind of mind-boggling how someone can write in the Duniverse for ten years and still make mistakes even a casual reader can spot.
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