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zeropoint wrote:

boardadmin wrote:

zeropoint wrote:Which brings me to Farok's regenerating arm. When we first meet him in DM, Scytale notices his empty sleeve. Then one page later, Farok is clasping his hands in his lap. Now this has been called an inconsistancy, but nowhere is it mentioned that he had only one arm. Just an empty sleeve. Could it be his arm was in a sling? Wounded, where he wasn't able to put it into his sleeve. This theory, however, is also not mentioned. Ho hum.

Not to mention if something like this took place in one of BH and KJA's Dune books, those that dislike the new Dune novels would scream "Inconsistency!" And then when a rationalization such as you postulated was given, they'd completely disregard it.

There are many inconsistancies and contradictions between Frank's own work. I'm only trying to find a safe medium. However, I do believe that if one desires to continue another's work, they should have an eye for inconsistancies and try to avoid them. Blatant changes to canon, rationalized by personal opinion (or pride) is something I find hard to digest. I'm not trying to knock the new authors, the have many admirers, I'm simply stating a personal preferance.

While you are right, allowances can be, and perhaps should be made, I found much that simply was not cohesive between the original and expansion novels.

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Father Figure (ss) Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine Apr 2003
Interview— Brian Herbert (iv) Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine #9 2003

Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine, Issue #6
Written by Steven H Silver
Thursday, 19 June 2003
“Father Figure” by Byron Merritt
In “Father Figure,” Byron Merritt has written a golden age style story of a young boy and his robot, careful to include a large amount of technobabble to provide a futuristic feel. Thomas, a thirteen year old, comes across as refreshingly naïve, although his (and his mother’s) inability to see the obvious does grate by the end of the story. Merritt seems to have been reluctant to include any sign of menace which weakens the story and adds to a nostalgic feel.

From his own site bios:

Byron Merritt: Byron is a 41-year-old filmophile with a penchant for the bizarre. He lives in the subtle town of Pacific Grove, California where he works, writes, watches movies, works on writing about movies and generally drives everyone crazy with his constant question, "Have you seen this film!"
Byron Merritt
Merrit lives in Pacific Grove, California, and works as a full time emergency room nurse and part time writer. He's taken first and third places in local writing competitions and has posted numerous science fiction stories/articles on the Internet at various webzines. He says that he derives much of his writing abilities via his genes; his grandfather was the internationally best-selling author Frank Herbert of Dune fame. Byron is currently working on multiple science fiction and fantasy short stories, novels, and novelettes.

Byron Merritt is the founder of Fiction Writers of the Monterey Peninsula, which was established in January of 2000.
He continues to raise teenage twins (a boy and a girl) while working full time as an emergency room nurse.
Lately his writing life has consisted of writing shorts stories. But he’s interviewed famous authors, too, and has had some of these interviews published in countries as far away as Australia and the United Kingdom.
His grandfather, the famous Dune author Frank Herbert, was an early inspiration in his writing career. Brian Herbert (Byron’s uncle) and Kevin J. Anderson—coauthors of the New York Times best-selling Dune prequels—remain an important influence in his writing life.
Byron currently lives in Pacific Grove, California with his beautiful fiancé, Stasia, the polish princess.

BB wrote:tell me that's actually on a webpage somewhere

Sole Man wrote:Does byron have some kind of female loved one? If so, are there any pictures you guys could post here.

I'm working on a little revenge that I pulled on my freind...

SandChigger wrote:(Did you mean to start a new thread here?)

You gets bonus points for NOT using OH'ers or some similarly uncouth variation thereof!

(Of course, as an Ohioan, "OHian" is going to throw me for a while.... )

Schu wrote:I decided to post in reply:

Can we please, as a community, move past this kind of idea, the "OMG if this was in KJA/BH's work you'd be screaming blue murder" thing?

GamePlayer wrote:

Schu wrote:I decided to post in reply:

Can we please, as a community, move past this kind of idea, the "OMG if this was in KJA/BH's work you'd be screaming blue murder" thing?

If you're asking them, you're asking the wrong community

SandChigger wrote:(Did you mean to start a new thread here?)

You gets bonus points for NOT using OH'ers or some similarly uncouth variation thereof!

(Of course, as an Ohioan, "OHian" is going to throw me for a while.... )

Complete agreement. It's the number and quality of mistakes and intentional "creative" changes that's the problem, along with the usually simplistic and implausible "explanations" provided after people complain. And the attitude that we should just accept them because they (=KJA) say so.

Lisan Al-Gaib wrote:if the word is "Orthodox Herbertarian" (OH), why the plural couldn't be OHs?

(Orthodox HerbertarianS) (???)

SandRider wrote:GODDAMNIT! SOMEBODY TAKE MY KEYBOARD AWAY !

I fucking typoed the fucking topic title, and I know DAMN WELL
that can't be fixed ! FUUUCK !

Omph, delete this whole ill-advised drunken trhead, and I'll try again later

Schu wrote:

GamePlayer wrote:

Schu wrote:I decided to post in reply:

Can we please, as a community, move past this kind of idea, the "OMG if this was in KJA/BH's work you'd be screaming blue murder" thing?

If you're asking them, you're asking the wrong community

It used to be the right community (with only a few bad seeds) but I'm out of touch with it I guess, so it could well have changed.

GamePlayer wrote:

Schu wrote:

GamePlayer wrote:

Schu wrote:I decided to post in reply:

Can we please, as a community, move past this kind of idea, the "OMG if this was in KJA/BH's work you'd be screaming blue murder" thing?

If you're asking them, you're asking the wrong community

It used to be the right community (with only a few bad seeds) but I'm out of touch with it I guess, so it could well have changed.

To be fair, Dumbnovels never was the right community and never could it be. It was always an official HLP website and it was always compromised. It's just that for a while, we were able to voice ourselves on the board and the HLP/Byron at least made a good go at pretending they didn't have a profit motive for the sake of their fans. That's one reason why I joined the boards after lurking for a few weeks and violated my own rule about joining official websites.

However, once all pretense was dropped, well, the board lost what little credibility it had. This happens to most official websites, which is why you've often heard me spout off "official websites suck; fansites have always been where it's at". It's true for Dune, it was true before Dune and it'll be true after Dune. Just the way the internet works.

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GamePlayer wrote:

Schu wrote:

GamePlayer wrote:

Schu wrote:I decided to post in reply:

Can we please, as a community, move past this kind of idea, the "OMG if this was in KJA/BH's work you'd be screaming blue murder" thing?

If you're asking them, you're asking the wrong community

It used to be the right community (with only a few bad seeds) but I'm out of touch with it I guess, so it could well have changed.

To be fair, Dumbnovels never was the right community and never could it be. It was always an official HLP website and it was always compromised. It's just that for a while, we were able to voice ourselves on the board and the HLP/Byron at least made a good go at pretending they didn't have a profit motive for the sake of their fans. That's one reason why I joined the boards after lurking for a few weeks and violated my own rule about joining official websites.

However, once all pretense was dropped, well, the board lost what little credibility it had. This happens to most official websites, which is why you've often heard me spout off "official websites suck; fansites have always been where it's at". It's true for Dune, it was true before Dune and it'll be true after Dune. Just the way the internet works.

Schu wrote:Ah well. At least we had some fun times